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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:12 PM
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Shaffer coming on Rachel Maddow
as an aside I have been readying his book... Crazy for God, and highly recommended, and he is a hell of a writer. No wonder he was such a leader for the moment.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:24 PM
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1. Any of you paying attention to Shaffer?
He is saying what some of us have been saying for months how... perhaps if you see it in the TV machine...
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:26 PM
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2. I'm glad they addressed the Psalms thing..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:26 PM
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3. That was very good
Naomi Klein coming up now.
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:34 PM
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7. Wow...
these are the terrorist, they are amongst us. Interesting how no other decent media outlet is speaking out about this hateful rhetoric. In my opinion it is because they don’t want to be accused by the right that they are in the tank for Obama, but this goes beyond the pale. These people are really sick, and they have the nerve to call themselves Christians. Christians they are not, Christ was a man of peace.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:27 PM
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4. Oh man! He is really impressive.
His message was that the conservatives have this on their heads, if they don't condemn the hate talk. AND we should not be sniping at Obama's seemingly slow action toward more progressive changes.

He's fantastic, especially considering his hand in ultra right evangelical work in prior years.
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Sukie Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:31 PM
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5. He is as frustrated as many of us are with the so called
supporters of President Obama who do nothing but gripe about everything he does, almost as much as the right wing gripes. He said it beautifully. In this time, like no other, where the right wing has become so vile and violent, we on the left need to ban together against them and stand with our president. It really is that simple.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:43 PM
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9. i will applaud POTUS where he deserves it
and be critical where it needs to be done.

And the Stimulus is one of those ... standing ovation Sir...

There are a few (Guantamo for example) that I'm all going ... hmmm

But I got what he meant... Some folks will never, ever be satisfied.
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Sukie Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:05 PM
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11. Of course I don't mean "blind, gushing, he can do no wrong"
support. I also don't advocate the constant "he isn't living up to his promises" stuff that flies around here constantly. When those who are supposed to be on his side don't give him adequate time to do anything, and then they also don't stand up to those who keep him from living up to his promises, how can a single man do anything? Can any of you say you could do better, given such circumstances of negativity? I can't imagine it. It must be like trying to haul 100 times your weight up the steepest mountain.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:36 PM
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8. I so agree with this
There is a difference between pushing left and undermining the POTUS making it more difficult to get the changes that we all want.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:34 PM
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6. I heard most of the interview from the other room
Can't wait for the clip to be posted. Shaffer was spot on and it needed to be said, I hope it gets more attention. Shaffer came right out and said that this type of "christianity" is equivalent to the taliban--and he's right.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:44 PM
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10. I just got his book on the kindle (IPOD)
have not finished the other one, but that's ok.
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