To all of you folks giving Newsweek a pass for the Sarah Palin cover:

[Nikki Stone1]

Why did Newsweek not put this photo on their front cover when discussing Obama's politics?




(I would like Sarah Palin just to go away--TOTALLY AWAY--or maybe, if necessary, to confine herself to "Dancing With the Stars". But you have to admit that Newsweek's choice does seem a tad sexist.)

[bbinacan]

1. You make a good point. n/t

[Nikki Stone1]

2. Not that it isn't a drool-worthy pic, mind you.

:evilgrin:

But, still, Newsweek would not use this photo for their cover when discussing politics. It would be nice to see women get treated with more respect.

[Bicoastal]

3. Because Obama's the President and Palin is some crazy lady without a job.

Next?

[Scurrilous]

13. Yep.

:thumbsup:

[brucefan]

4. Palin's not topless.n/t

[cali]

5. Palin posed for the photo that Newsweek used

She didn't have to. Obama did not pose for the media in the above photo.

[Fuzz]

6. +1

[Nikki Stone1]

45. -1. This was a posed shot too:

Washington Post, Lewinsky era, page one, above the fold. I remember it well.

So is this fair game too?

[karynnj]

102. I always thought that was a candid shot. Did the Clintons pose for it to answer questions on their

marriage?

[lunamagica]

153. I remember that picture. It's from a vacation they took BEFORE

the Lewinsky scandal. After the scandal broke, Hillary wouldn't even look at Bill for ages, much less dance with him. I remember it well.

[malaise]

116. +2 n/t

[LoveIsNow]

11. There you go.

[Nikki Stone1]

15. She did not pose for Newsweek in that photo. Neither did Obama pose for Newsweek in this one.

But, it you are going to be nit-picky, remember this posed shot?



It appeared on the cover of the Washington Post in the late 90s.

Should Newsweek have used this when discussing Bill's policy in Kosovo?

[Caretha]

115. When Palin can come up with a policy in Kosovo...

then we'll talk, until then...stfu

[cali]

155. a) it's my understanding that the Clinton picture was not posed, but regardless

if a politician poses for the media, it's fair game for the media to use. period.

[emilyg]

21. She did not pose for Newsweek.

Shame on Newsweek.

[JI7]

59. so what ? she still posed in that photo for a magazine for the public

[Blue_In_AK]

33. You are correct.

Why would the photo be okay for Runners World or whatever it was and not for Newsweek. Sarah doesn't care about sexism -- her alleged sex appeal is the only thing she has going for her.

[Nikki Stone1]

48. This photo was ok for the Washington Post:

Why not for Newsweek when Hillary was running? Or when Bill went to North Korea?

[TroglodyteScholar]

60. Excuse me for saying something, but...

...is it not a little inconsiderate to repeatedly post the same picture to a thread? If you make your point one time, I'm sure the people following the thread will get your point, even if 1/2 the thread's replies don't belong to you.

Edit: typo

[Blue_In_AK]

141. Yes, I did see that example elsewhere,

and I stand by my original opinion. (Not directed at you but at the picture-poster).

[JI7]

69. a better comparison to that is when they flew Levi over and to the convention

and all those pics the media took with McCain meeting him at the airport etc.

[madinmaryland]

145. Either you are getting off on Bill's nips or Hill's legs?

:wtf:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

39. Yes, I would have thought that this fact was ridiculously obvious

Apparently not to all.

[mcablue]

78. She posed for a magazine dedicated to recreational running

People often run in shorts.

[mcablue]

90. dupe n/t

[ixion]

7. Did Obama get his start as a model?

It's relative because that's what she's selling, in large part.

[MNDemNY]

8. Nikki, there is a difference.

Sara's shot was willingly posed for, the shot of Obama was a candid. Ms. Palin knew, or should have known that she did not own the rights to that pic, that it could turn up outside of "Runners World", AND it seems rather fitting, as she is using her sex appeal to sell "her" book. Maybe a "iffy" choice on the part of Newsweek, but certainly not out of the realm. She is , by her own account "out of politics", so I think that puts her in "entertainer" status, at this point.

[Nikki Stone1]

17. This shot was willingly posed for too:

Front page of the Washington post in the late 90s, during the Lewinsky scandal. Should this photo have been used as a Newsweek cover when Hillary ran in the primary last year? Or when Bill went to North Korea to free the journalists?

[KamaAina]

23. Well, it was front-paged in the WaPo

and Newsweak is owned by The Washington Post Co.

[Nikki Stone1]

28. Yes. So since it was their property, why didn't they use it when Bill went to Korea?

Perhaps because it was a tad disrespectful?

[Caretha]

117. You seem to really like Sarah Palin

alot. What's up with that?

[MNDemNY]

24. Was Hillary using sex appeal to sell herself?

I don't think so. The marketing of Sara IS the story.

[Nikki Stone1]

That is the best point on this thread, and I have to agree with you on that.

But Obama could have been sex appeal material too. :)

Unlike this guy:





It's Bob Dole.

[MNDemNY]

30. No doubt!

;)

[Nikki Stone1]

36. The Dole photo is just so sad.

:rofl:

And thinking about his Viagra just makes me vomit.

[MNDemNY]

47. I did not need that visual.

:puke:

[Nikki Stone1]

49. Sorry about that.

LOL!

[Ikonoklast]

123. Bob Dole is one thing most Republicans aren't, a wounded war veteran

who served his country honorably in the 10th Mountain Division in Italy and was nearly killed in doing so.

Two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star with a combat 'V'.

He may be many things, but a coward he isn't.

He got that battered body honorably.

[liberalhistorian]

142. Thank you, I was just about to point

that out myself. You beat me to it.

[phasma ex machina]

130. +1 about his Viagra

:puke:

[Ignis]

52. Woo hoo! Check out those gams! Hubba hubba!

Though I freely admit that Dole's picture got the Nair jingle stuck in my head:

"Who wears short shorts?"

The answer, apparently, is Bob Dole. Who knew?

[madinmaryland]

149. Sheesh! You really need to post a real republican...

[StarfarerBill]

43. Exactly.

Palin's handlers are selling her, and part of that plan is hyping her perceived physical attractiveness to her base and to those they think could be swayed to the base.

[lukasahero]

164. "The marketing of Sara IS the story." Perfect

and 100 % correct.

[Toucano]

40. You are in error on that.

They are not posing for the cover of a magazine.


I had to look at the Palin photo again to be sure I got what you were talking about.

She clearly was giving the photographer her beauty queen pose, hand on hip, opposite knee bent, head cocked 10 degrees.

Check out the other photos for the shoot that don't involve the tight short shorts and the beauty queen pose.

http://www.runnersworld.com/photo/sarahpalin/slide6.html

Again, there was no reason for Newsweek to use that photo. But Sarah should not have posed for it either.

[GoCubsGo]

9. There is one big difference.

Palin willingly posed for that photo. The shot of Obama was taken while he was at the beach on vacation. He didn't go out and purposely pose for it.

[rocktivity]

10. Maybe it's because Newsweek DOESN'T see Obama as

a lying cheating failing quitting lying pathetic egomaniacal joke. And even if they did, he's the president of the united states.

:patriot:
rocktivity

[Nikki Stone1]

22. Look, I agree that Palin is a freaking train wreck and I want her to just GO AWAY

FAR AWAY...Mars is my preference. I'll settle for "Dancing with the Stars" which I never watch.

But sexism is sexism. And this Newsweek cover, while perhaps appropriate to this reject from "Wife Swap" is still insulting to me as a woman simply because Newsweek chose to run it.

[MNDemNY]

29. I understand how you can feel that way.

But don't you think there is something apropos about this pic in regards to the whole Sara Palin story? It has used from the get-go , her "sex-appeal" to sell herself.

[Nikki Stone1]

68. I still don't approve of the pic. But I do wish someone would vote Palin off the island already

I am so FUCKING sick and tired of this nothing person and her nothing family and her nothing almost son-in-law. This is not the kind of person who should be in politics.

[juajen]

134. As opposed to George F. (guess what that stands for) Bush?

I guess this will follow other rules of the gender wars. Women must do it better, faster and more elegantly than their male counterparts.

I believe she is a viable GOP candidate, and will get the pug nomination and will give Obama a run for our money. We need to stop bashing her and figure out a way to defeat her without making fun of her and antagonizing the female population that has been ready for a long time for a serious female candidate for the presidency. Just sayin'.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

162. Why do you think she is a viable GOP candidate? n/t

[rocktivity]

131. Take away Sarah's sex appeal, and what have you got?

A lying cheating failing quitting lying pathetic egomaniacal joke!


rocktivity

[Caretha]

118. You certainly are easily insulted....

sounds like a personal problem to me, not one worthy to dredge infront of the populace of DU and let all see how thin skinned you are.

[Toucano]

12. I agree with one notable distinction.

It doesn't really change the fact that Newsweek made a poor decision (well, they do want to sell magazines), however, Obama did not go to a studio and pose for that photograph.

Palin went to a studio, wardrobe, hair and make-up and posed for the photographers.

Obama went to the beach and did what men his age normally do at the beach.

Yes, Newsweek should not have used that photo (supposedly taken for a fitness magazine) and yes, Palin should not have posed for such a ridiculous looking photo (even if it was for a fitness magazine).

That is not something a serious minded person does.

[Luminous Animal]

34. She posed for "Runner's World"...

thus, the photo was appropriate (though, I would have left out the flag).

Newsweek has done wrong with cover.

[Toucano]

63. No. The photo was not appropriate.

This photo from that shoot was appropriate:



So was this one:



The one with the tight short shorts and the beauty queen pose was not appropriate for any serious-minded public figure. It is appropriate for a pop star, a film star, a beauty queen or possibly even an athlete.



If the cry of sexism is because it accentuates Ms. Palin's sexuality, it is certain. But don't forget that Palin was a willing participant in accentuating her sexuality only a few short months ago.

I think it matters that Runner's World didn't even use the shot that became the Newsweek cover. They went with one that better represented the sport.

[Iggo]

80. Yeah, you're right. The downblouse one is the best.

:evilgrin:

[Toucano]

86. Oh, lord!

I don't even think like that. :)

I just note that the figure is actually practising the sport in question (or getting ready to) rather than posing like a Barbie Doll.

[Iggo]

89. I was just being a dick.

I actually think that's a real good shot.

If the subject didn't make me sick, that is.

[Toucano]

112. I knew.

I was just stuck by how I had completely failed to notice that aspect.

Different we are! LOL!

[Luminous Animal]

94. She's more covered up and wearing looser clothing (including the shorts)

than most of the women on the cover of Runner's World.

[Toucano]

103. Well, I think it's the Beauty Queen pose, more than her attire.

You are right of course.

If it had been a photo of her RUNNING or stretching or in some way practising the sport, I wouldn't think a sports bra would be inappropriate. It's what a lot of women wear.

But she's not running in that outfit. She's got hair and make-up and lighting and a Barbie Doll pose.

If she (her people, I guess) hadn't said it was associated with a shot for a fitness magazine, I would have had no idea.

Even the magazine ended up not using it.

[lukasahero]

165. "not appropriate for any serious-minded public figure"

Um, we're talking about Sarah Palin here, not a "serious-minded public figure". She's a joke, her politics are a joke, her grasp of public policy is a joke and she is not a ""serious-minded public figure".

There's a reason Newsweek hasn't used a cover like this of Hillary or Obama or Nancy Pelosi - because they never posed in their best "Miss Alaska" pose in the first place. If Sarah Palin wants to be taken for a "serious-minded public figure", perhaps she should start acting like one?

[Toucano]

169. Precisely.

Culpability lies with Palin herself, not Newsweek.

[spanone]

14. if President Obama were an ardent runner and posed in shorts, i would not find it offensive,

Obamas' is not a posed picture. Once you pose and release a photo, it can go anywhere.

[msongs]

16. maybe it's because he is NOT wearing all his clothes? Palin chose to look that way nt

[KamaAina]

18. If they had, would Obama have screamed bloody murder like Caribou Barbie did?

:shrug:

[Nikki Stone1]

25. Actually, I think Obama would have been ok with it. DU might have called it racist and

started a war with Newsweek. They might have found white sheets sent in the mail from loyal DUers. :)

Of course, I think his pic is great and would have enjoyed hanging it my office. :evilgrin:

[rvablue]

19. Because this is a papparazzi photo. Palin posed for hers and used the American flag

as a prop draped over a chair. That's why. The image on Newsweek isn't sexist. Sarah Palin is sexist for using her wink, wink, "look at my short shorts" routine to try to gain political power.

Maybe she should try to read a newspaper or a book instead.

[ErinBerin84]

20. First

I was of the school "eh, kind of a cheap shot, but she posed for the picture and it would be different than if it were candid". Then, I got the issue in the mail...uh, the pictures inside are a bit worse. There's a "Palin doll" or something dressed up in a Britney Spears type schoolgirl uniform, and the picture from last year of her legs with guys in the audience staring up. It definitely seems like they were going for um...a theme. I think it just distracts from their points, though the cover itself just makes me think of what a cheeseball she is. That said, I kind of am with media matters in that the stuff on the inside was icky. But yes, I do think she should have known that that would end up on a cover, just as other unfortunate photo ops with pols do, and I agree with Cynthia Tucker who said on Hardball today that Sarah Palin derides political correctness, but expects it when it comes to her.

[spanone]

128. this is how palin sells herself. the media is accommodating her. this is a pattern with her.

use the media, then blame them

[rvablue]

26. To all of you making false comparisons, you cannot equate these 2 pics. However, had Newsweek

used this photo, I would have had a problem. This photo and the one in the OP are comparable. But as far as the Runners' World photo goes -- she sat for it and put it out into the ether. She can live with it now!

[Nikki Stone1]

41. How about this one that WAS posed for. The Washington Post FRONT page

Under your rules, since this was posed for, it's fair game for any other cover. How about when Hillary was running last year? How about when Bill went to North Korea to bring the journalists home?

If the NY Post had used this photo during Clinton's trip to North Korea, there would have been weeping and gnashing of teeth on DU.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

46. Was that an actual photo shoot? A photo shoot taken to appear in a spread?

Or them on vacation?

[Nikki Stone1]

53. It was an actual photo shoot. Washington Post photographer. It was taken during the

Lewinsky scandal for obvious reasons. I remember the paper.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

57. Do you have a link?

Also, Palin doesn't have an substantive positions. She isn't talking about Kosovo, or Korea. If she isn't talking about herself being persecuted or death panels, she isn't talking about anything.

[Nikki Stone1]

95. The photo is from the 1998 WaPo archives which I cannot access. However, Huffington Post has it.

If you want the WaPo version, you need to have access to the archives. I actually bought the paper itself way back when and had kept it, but it got lost with some other important things I was saving in a move, or I would scan it for you.

articles.latimes.com/1998/jan/14/news/ls-7969

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/08/presidents-and-first-ladi_n_254550.html

[Beaverhausen]

51. Was this from a professional photo shoot?

Did they go out with the photographer and stylist and willingly pose for hours to get just the right shot?

[Nikki Stone1]

70. Yes. And it was for a political purpose

The Lewinsky crap had just emerged.

I don't blame them for this photo, but I do think if Palin's photo is fair game so is this one.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

74. Being used for a political purpose does NOT equate to being a professional photo shoot.

A photo shoot means you have sets, makeup artists, hair professionals, directors, professional photographers etc. It means the primary purpose is to get that shot.

[Nikki Stone1]

83. It was a professional posed shoot.

And you can excuse it all you want, but it is the equivalent.

And it was by the same damned people: WaPo/Newsweek. Same company.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

85. There were hair and makeup artists there? Lighting? Sets?

[Nikki Stone1]

97. Well the beach seems to have been the set.

This really gets you, doesn't it.

Because really, once a photo is posed for and out there, it could be used for whatever message anyone has to send. It always surprised me that the NY Post didn't use the bathing suit photo against Hillary during her campaign. But then, she was backed by Murdoch.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

144. Yep, false equivalencies do get to me.

[Toucano]

101. It is not a professional, posed and staged photo.

No way. No how. Look at the way it's framed. You can't even be sure the female figure is actually Hillary because you can't see her face.



You'll have to do better than that to find an equivalent.

[Beaverhausen]

77. I would like to see a link to the story you are talking about

and for fuck's sake - if Palin is too stupid to know that any photo she poses for will be used accompanying any story about her, she is too stupid to be president, let alone any kind of public figure.

Her little victim act was old a year ago.

Why on earth are you defending her?

[Nikki Stone1]

81. The story is from the late 90s and you have to be able to get into the WaPo archives

I remember the actual paper, which I kept until I moved. I can't find it now. (I also lost some childhood letters at the same time. :()

If you have the ability to get in the WaPo archives I guarantee you it is there. Front page, above the cover. I'll see if I can get to a library that has this capability.

[Beaverhausen]

91. The fact that it was on the cover does not mean it was a professional photo shoot

I actually kind of remember this. I think they were on vacation and once they saw the photographer, they did this little dance routine.

Far different from Sarah's professional photo shoot.

But go ahead and defend her, just like you defended Carrie Prejean the other day. Says a lot about you.

Sarah Palin is no friend to women, and for her or anyone to charge sexism is ridiculous.

[Nikki Stone1]

99. Oh stop.

You tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself.

In the end, the Sarah Palin photo IS insulting to women and Newsweek screwed us over.

And really, Palin has had her 15 minutes. It's time for her to be voted off the island.

[Toucano]

109. I wish you wouldn't do that.

Nikki has a point that is worthy of discussion and it is not appropriate to say, "Says a lot about you." You can disagree with her without attacking her. "Says a lot about you" feels like a bit of a personal attack.

Even though I disagree with her about Prejean and Palin being victims of sexism, I think we can limit our disagreement to the topic and not get personal about it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

143. Nikki is attempting to tell us how "good women" should feel.

As a woman, that pisses me off. As a woman, I am more humiliated when Palin winks her way to stardom than when Newsweek uses a photo that Palin willingly posed for and signed off on as a cover.

No, Newsweek did not insult women. They insulted Palin. Whether a News org should be doing that or not is a different matter.

[Toucano]

148. I understand and I disagree with her.

But I appreciate her challenging my (perhaps our) idea of sexism and how women are represented in the media. Honestly, it helps me know I'm right. :)

Prejean and Palin are such willing participants in the use and exploitation of their sexuality when it benefits their interests that it is hard to feel sympathetic for them when it backfires and makes them look stupid.

You wanna say, "Play with fire, you might get burned!"

There are certainly more legitimate examples out there.

[bettyellen]

150. exactly- this is a not a photo shoot pic- it was published because there was talk @ the state of ..

the Clinton's mariage and it illustrated how they were trying to keep it together. Palin;s pictureis perfect for the story because it shows she's a loose cannon who relys on inappropriate cutesy behaviour instead of being known as a serious or talented person. She makes a lot of dumb moves and thrives on attention- the pic illustartes it perfectly. I saw lots of awful sexist stuff during the election, but I don;t see it here. This woman made her own bed, same a Prejean. If people treat them with disrespect, it's well earned

[Caretha]

122. You didn't answer the question

W.h.y. a.r.e. y.o.u. d.e.f.e.n.d.i.n.g. h.e.r. ?

[cwydro]

121. Why do you keep posting this same photo again and again?

We get it.

I am going to weep and gnash my teeth if you post it one more time.

[Minimus]

124. LOL!

:rofl:

[rvablue]

163. I've never seen a case of CDS

that drove someone to defend $'error and her hypocritical, poutrage BS...Wow!

[Spider Jerusalem]

27. Palin is a brainless ex-beauty queen who's all image and no substance.

And she was selected as McCain's VP and catapulted into national prominence as much on the basis of her looks as anything else. If it were someone else with a serious background and genuine credentials, like Christine Todd Whitman, for instance, you'd have a point. But given that we're talking about a shallow moron with no more actual substance than a sheaf of tissue paper, I don't see Newsweek's choice of cover image as especially out of line as much as a subtle and not-very-complimentary commentary re Palin (since it says: this is NOT a serious person...which she really, really isn't).

[Johonny]

31. It's not like this cover comes out of a non-sexual vaccum.

Well not having read the newsweek article, I have no idea if the cover was appropriate or not to the specific case. The cover tends to make light of Palin as a political figure. If the material inside backs up the photo then... I don't see any problem. The fact Palin was selling her sexuality herself seems to me part of the Sarah Palin story. You can't make DUers pretend the GOP and Palin didn't do this, because they did. As Stephenie Miller pointed out this morning and last night on Larry King. If Newsweek wants to cover that aspect I believe it's fair game because Palin herself made it fair game.

To me this is like complaining the media covers your adult "child" AFTER she goes on national TV of her own free will and does political interviews.

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35. "News"week is sad and is no longer newsworthy. This stunt explains why

they have gone from 3.1 million subscribers few years ago to 1.8 million.

I would LOVE if Palin would simply disappear forever (from media not wishing her any harm).

Still "news"week took a photo out of context and it looks like they had no permission to use it since Runner's World indicates they were never contacted by Newsweek.

[SoCalDem]

37. Candid, unposed-for pic vs pre-arranged photo-shoot

Sarah posed for a cheesecake-ish picture in the governor's office with US flag casually draped on a chair...Sure it was for Runner's World, but why not do the photoshoot on a track..in her usual track-suit attire that she wore everywhere?

Sarah uses her "sexuality" when she chooses..

swimming is usually done in a swimsuit:)

[Nikki Stone1]

56. I agree with you about Palin's personality, but what about this photo?

Remember this? Front page Washington Post? During the Lewinsky scandal?



Posed, page one, above the fold.

[Toucano]

73. I don't get your point about that photo, Nikki.

Is this photo of Bill and Hillary sexist? Or even sexual?

Are you saying that Hillary or Bill cried "sexism" when the post ran that photo?

And that is not a posed photo. There is no hair, make-up or lighting person on hand like in a photo shoot.

At best, they were aware that cameras were present. That doesn't make it a photo shoot.

[SoCalDem]

93. Posed for..to alleviate the "scandal"

no problem with that photo from me..or should there have been by them

[Bluenorthwest]

38. she posed for the photo and put the clothes on herself

My question to you is why would you suggest that Palin needs to be presented with the respect due a President? She's a hack on a book tour. Which is what the photo tells us. You think they should have given her a presentation with more gravitas? Based on what?
She put the clothes on and struck that pose. She's an idiot for doing so, but it was her choice. She's a grown up adult.

[Nikki Stone1]

42. These two posed too:

Front cover, Washington Post. Above the fold. During the Lewinsky scandal.

Should this photo have been used when Bill went to rescue the journalists in North Korea?

[Bluenorthwest]

71. This point makes no sense to me

This was the front page. And your OP's point was that they'd not put a man in a swimsuit on the cover? Or what?
And are you now suggesting that Palin has done something that is equal to Clinton's North Korea rescue? She's selling a book. About her self. Not about policy, about Palin. So what is your point, really? This woman selects her look, her 'politics' involves winking at the camera. But that can not be commented upon? That photo comments upon that exactly as Tina Fey did with the 'fancy pageant walking' and all of that. Was Tina sexist, or satirically dead on?

[spanone]

133. trust me, palin is going nowhere to rescue no one. you're comparisons fail.

[emilyg]

62. What? Obama didn't put the bathing trunks on himself?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

67. Yes, and then he stood there and waited for photographers to do his hair and makeup and get the

lighting right and put him in just the right position and...


Oh...

Wait...

[HipChick]

44. The Washingtonian used Obamas abs to sell their magazine..

I didn't see him crying and complaining

[Nikki Stone1]

50. What article accompanied the photo?

Do you have a link?

[HipChick]

55. Do you google?

I think people missed the point...the big questions is she running or not? She's pictured running, subtle...

http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/people/capitalcomment/12153.html

[Nikki Stone1]

58. Do you answer questions?

I didn't miss your point. I'd like you to provide a link.

[HipChick]

65. I think you missed my point and post

[Nikki Stone1]

84. I think you have no link and don't want to answer

And you're just avoiding my question and my point.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

88. I think an article from 6 mos ago is fairly easy to google. That said, here you go:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/shirtless-obama-on-cover_n_189283.html

[Beaverhausen]

92. there is a link to a magazine with Obama shirtless on the cover in post #55

jesus you are dense!

[emilyg]

54. Very sexist. They wouldn't

get away with this sh*t with a male. Shame on the person who approved that cover.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

61. It's not sexist. It's because she's completely without substance.

They wouldn't have done it for Clinton, Snowe, Buchanan, Hutchinson, Pelosi...ANYONE else because no other female politician would have posed like that and more importantly, those politicians aren't national jokes.

[HipChick]

72. Agree...I'm a runner...I wouldn't even be caught dead in my running shorts going to the grocery sto

I'd be wearing tracksuit bottoms..

[cwydro]

119. I'm a runner too.

But I frequently go to the grocery store wearing running shorts.

Why the hell shouldn't I?

[emilyg]

132. Perhaps your legs are not in good shape.

[StarfarerBill]

96. But it's because she is without substance that they sell her appearance.

That's what the cover is all about; pandering to those whom her physical attractiveness can attract to their banner...or to keep the true believers there.

Using sex to sell a product, or a politician, is sexist, period.

[HipChick]

107. What do you call winking in VP debates?

trying to use sexuality to sell a viewpoint..

[StarfarerBill]

111. I would never deny that Palin is cunning enough to use her sexuality to further her career.

I think that, like many pols, her only interest is herself.

[Nikki Stone1]

64. Thank you. I think we're the only two who feel this way. I still want Palin to GO AWAY, THE HELL

AWAY. I feel like I am being tortured by a never-ending reality show. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE VOTE THIS WOMAN OFF THE ISLAND ALREADY?

[GMA]

105. All I can say is

Go Nikki!

[emilyg]

140. I don't have to like the person to call sexism.

[Caretha]

126. Uh....

you need to check the link in post #88...I think you need to put a sock in it. You will notice that there is a picture of Obama, shirtless, unposed, and used on the front cover of a magazine. Gee....when will he start whining like your idol (the quit her job as govenor Sarah Palin).

[emilyg]

136. You sound very young.

[Caretha]

139. That's your reply

when you have been refuted and shown that you don't know what you're talking about? :eyes:

[Luminous Animal]

152. You do know, don't you, that the Washingtonian is a lifestyle rag.

Presumably, Newsweek is not.

And whether you like her or not, Palin deserves the same non-sexist treatment from Newsweek as any other former governor and vice-presidential candidate.

[undeterred]

66. The cover picture of Sarah Palin on Newsweek is flattering.

Most 46 year old women would love to be in such great shape. What she really hates is the word PROBLEM referring to her.

[johnnie]

75. I thought so too

I didn't think she called it sexist, she said it was "degrading". And I think she was talking about the whole cover, not just a picture she took.

[HipChick]

87. Her Facebook page says sexist - I've been battling Palinbots all day..

they are filling up my inbox with their inane offerings..

[HipChick]

76. I don't understand why she'd draw more attention to it...

[SemiCharmedQuark]

79. Because playing victim is all she has.

She doesn't put for policies or thoughts on policy (aside from "Death Panels"). She is a joke. If people commented on her actual political thoughts, she'd be screwed.

[RoadRage]

146. [phone]

[CBR]

106. I totally agree with you. I was about to post that she looks

great and in shape. It is a flattering picture. I have no concerns about Sarah Palin either way.

[Warren DeMontague]

82. They should use that picture of Obama.

And they should have used this picture, every time they talked about Bush.

[Nikki Stone1]

98. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember that photo!

Dumb ass!

:rofl:

[karynnj]

100. BIG DIFFERENCE - Palin posed for hers and it was designed as a newspaper cover,

Obama's was a candid photo taken from a distance while he was on holiday. To counter the idea that it was sexist, did anyone call all the photos of John Kerry windsurfing sexist?

[baldguy]

104. Bingo. Palin believes she's starved for attention

and whines LOUDLY when such attention doesn't meet her needs.

[Nikki Stone1]

108. Importance

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7036475

[Quixote1818]

110. Newsweek is having financial troubles. This is a last gasp to try to stay afloat.

It's pretty tough for magazines to make it these days.

[blogslut]

113. Because Barack Obama didn't exploit his sexuality in order to curry favor

Ms. Palin did:




The title of the Palin article is How Do You Solve a Problem Like Sarah?"

She deliberately flirts, winks and kisses as a means to manipulate the constituency. That's a problem coming from a person who wants to shape and regulate the policies and laws that affect us all.

[Catherine Vincent]

114. We know she doesn't really care abou that photo

Just more publicity to keep her name out there so idiots can buy her book.

[itsrobert]

120. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

stooopid tooooooooooooooooopic.

[NYC_SKP]

125. OOOOOH! MAN CANDY!!!!

Hunka Hunka burnin' love!

:P

[historian]

127. yes

I called and told them to cancel my subscription.
when they asked why i told that if i wanted yellow journalism and mindless drivel i could always turn to the inquirer. Cheaper too.

[Generator]

129. Let's see because Obama is more than a beach bod?

Obama has accomplished something besides being pretty and breeding. What EXACTLY has Sarah Palin done in her life? Yep, she's pretty-and that's WHY she was picked by MCain. Because she's a pretty woman. Vapid and not intelligent. And a great breeder. Sorry that's sexist, but it's also a fact. She's proud of her workout bod. She even had cameras come see her workout and have her run to the car in her shorts on her Oprah interview part that was filmed in Alaska.

According the the article I read in the New Yorker (I also thought the fist bump cover was funny-I hate p.c. hand wringing b.s more than just about anything but chicks like Palin) she was picked by the neo-con cabal because she gave them a woody, she was a stunner. She turns old white men that vote for Republicans heads. (too bad some vote with other parts too for them) It's sad that Newsweek can't just say she's a vapid, pretty woman that thinks she's on par with world leaders-but they can show it at least.

[HipChick]

135. She reminds me of women that get hired for their looks..

but are clueless on the job..

[Arkana]

137. If Sarah Palin didn't make her sexuality a massive, massive fucking part

of her appeal to her drooling, mouthbreathing fan base, I'd have a problem with it.

[Canuckistanian]

138. There is a point there

Newsweek is supposed to be a serious news magazine. The fact that they chose an image that had drawn ridicule previously is questionable.

If we're going to criticize Palin, let's keep the argument focussed on her ideas, rather than her appearance.

That is, if she has any ideas.

[budkin]

147. Because Sarah Palin can't be taken seriously?

[Contrary1]

151. And if the caption had read "The GOP's Best Hope To Run In 2012"...

Sarah would have loved it. It's not about the picture, it's all about the caption.

[juno jones]

154. I suspect that particular photo was used because of her cavalier

treatment of the flag and the beauty queen pose.

But, as someone pointed out, if the journalism grad and her handlers weren't savvy enough to get exclusive control of that pic, Runner's World can sell it to anybody they want.

[mwb970]

156. It's what she looks like. She posed for the picture. It's flattering. Why is it "sexist"?

Most women would kill to look like that in a picture.

Is it "sexist" to look at her while she gives speeches then? This is the stupidest non-controversy since Obama's "mustard on a burger" flap that threw the right into disarray last summer.

[Ganja Ninja]

157. I'm struggling to care one way or the other.

Sorry I can't do it.:boring:

[Skidmore]

158. You know what... that photo of Palin was the perfect choice.

Palin uses sex to sell herself. She has no original ideas and just parrots old * era platitudes and bluster. Remember that "fancy pageant walking" skit that Tina Fey did? Well that is the quintessential Palin--wiggle, jiggle, giggle, bat eye lashes, and wink. Period. The woman relies totally on flirtation to score points. I don't consider her a serious thinker or politician. She was chosen as window dressing by a party that has no interest in women or their issues beyond the superficial. Women who glom onto the R party and stood behind her when she everything she represents is antithetical to the progress of women in this world just bewilder me. I will not defend her in this instance. Her comportment throughout is adequate reason for the selection of that picture.

[TexasObserver]

167. "that is the quintessential Palin--wiggle, jiggle, giggle, bat eye lashes, and wink."

well said

[mitchum]

159. Because Obama isn't a STUPID BIMBO?

[RetroLounge]

160. Care just enough to unrec...

:yawn:

RL

[ellie]

161. Poor, delicate

Sarah Palin. She trades on her looks to get ahead and then gets upset when she is treated like an object. I think I may go cry for her right now.

[TexasObserver]

166. Why? Because Obama didn't pose like a pixie doll for a photo.

She posed for a photo. She wanted to show off her body, as she's done for a long, long time. When a woman is moderately attractive but painfully stupid, she usually leads with her body, and that's Sarah Palin. Your defense of her is unwarranted.

That photo is the essence of Sarah Palin. She's about nothing. She's more attractive physically than some women her age, but that's not what she promotes. She's a tease, and that's what she does. She loves looking seductively at the camera. It's really her only move.

She reaped what she sowed - a lifetime of saying "hey, ain't I cute?" comes to fruition.

[gmoney]

168. Why put her on the cover at all?

It's not like her pulp fiction needs any more publicity.

[dionysus]

170. palin posed for the photo. newsweek did nothing wrong. why don't you complain about palin's

innappropriate use fot he american flag?

[WhollyHeretic]

171. Slightly off topic but does anyone know where I could find a picture of Bill and Hillary dancing

at the beach?

I've looked all over and just can't find one.

[jillan]

172. Because Obama is not walking around screaming about sexism in the media -

but Sarah is. She can't have it both ways.

[Bobbie Jo]

173. Oh look....another 'crap' Palin thread!

For the irony-impaired. :rofl:

[ItNerd4life]

174. It's nice to see a few people have a sense of fairness.

Sara didn't pose for Newsweek, they found a photo they could use to try and embarass her. It will backfire against them.
Most Americans are smart enough to see the bigotry of their cover.