So, what if the military requires you to be able to do the job?

[Tim01]

I keep seeing these reports of women who now have kids, or are pregnant and can no longer do the job the military wants them to do?
Then it would be fair for the military to decline to accept women because there is the possibility the women won't be able to do the job when the time comes. That's fair right?
Women are already told that if they are going to have kids they will have to have someone else take care of them, and that isn't happening.
Since people are going to the military and asking " may I please join?" , the military should be able to make some requirements, like being able to to the job they volunteered for.

[Oregone]

1. "the job they volunteered for"

I thought they are compensated with wages and benefits, as with any other job

[Fumesucker]

2. I like mine with extra butter...

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Lost-in-FL]

4. Forget popcorn.

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[tekisui]

3. You think the best option is to deny women from serving?

Do you support discriminating against all women because they have the ability to get pregnant?

[Tim01]

10. Should men be allowed to leave because they become dads?

The fact that men are forced to leave when they are about to become fathers is not given any consideration at all none. Get a girl pregnant and want to stay home for the birth of your child? Too fucking bad. You are the one who signed up, get your shit and get on the truck.And don't whine about it.


It isn't like pregnancy is caused by drinking the wrong water.

[tekisui]

11. Do you think women should be barred from service?

[Tim01]

18. Nope.

I think they should be required to honor the deal they asked to be a part of.

[arcadian]

5. I'm sorry, it is clearly reasonable to give a single mother with a 12 month old child

a stateside assignment where she can be with her child. What the fuck has happened to reason in this country? Would it be that big a deal to give her an assignment like that? Pleeeze.

[guitar man]

6. ???

:wtf:

[StarfarerBill]

7. So the US military will have to enter the 21st Century...

...and make allowances for parents who don't have other options for their kids when the parents are deployed.

Hell, the military should be grateful that the Bush/Republican economic implosion has created so many "volunteers"...

[Crabby Appleton]

8. I have a good feeling about this thread

[noamnety]

9. I agree completely - and I'd add

that the US military should stop accepting men also, since they too can become single parents.

That would solve a whole lot of the world's problems.

[Tim01]

19. If men are fathers it totally irrelevant to the military.

"Your wifes about to give birth? Sucks to be you, get on the truck."

[noamnety]

20. Perhaps you should think your OP then so it doesn't sound so sexist.

"reports of women who now have kids, ... and can no longer do the job the military wants them to do"

Sounded like you were talking about single parents, and surely you realize men can be single parents, too, right?

Perhaps you should have left that out if what you really meant was that women shouldn't be hired in critical jobs because they have the POTENTIAL to get pregnant.

(Hello, 1950's).

[Arctic Dave]

12. The military should only recruit homosexuals. This way they won't have kids to be burdened with.

Either that, recruit only single people with no kids and have them steralized when they get their shots at boot camp.

[KamaAina]

16. Google "Sacred Band of Thebes"

an ancient all-gay elite fighting force. The theory behind it was that a man would rather die than be disgraced in the eyes of his lover.

Way to turn DADT on its head, Dave! :thumbsup:

[Starry Messenger]

13. Hell, why are we still using humans?

Droids don't have personal lives.

[tekisui]

14. We're getting there.

[Starry Messenger]

15. I bet you'd never catch one of those crying or having PMS.

Stupid girls. :sarcasm:

[mn9driver]

17. The Army is pretty obviously making an example of this unfortunate woman and her child.

Many years ago when I was in the Navy, one of the female sailors in our squadron showed up for a deployment pregnant. She was left behind. The next time we deployed, a half dozen showed up pregnant. It wasn't too long before the Navy made it a court martial offense to get pregnant "with the intent of avoiding deployment orders".

I have no idea if anyone was ever successfully prosecuted for it, but there were some OTH discharges as a result. This soldier may have really made a good faith effort to find care for her child, just as some of those female sailors may actually have just gotten pregnant at the worst time unintentionally. Once they decide to hang you out, it doesn't matter--you're toast. Putting the kid in foster care is pretty darn harsh, though. Admin discipline and an OTH is the more sensible course, I think.