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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:32 AM
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Poll question: Sarah Palin is a role model for women because...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:36 AM
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1. Woke up feeling pretty positive this morning.
Now, my head hurts. Yep. How can even the RW think she is an example of anything but what to avoid like the plague?

The optimist in me hopes she was a bomb McCain set to explode the goofiest wing of the GOP. Have always figured him for passive/aggressive about his own party.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:42 AM
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2. Hey, she's a woman who is against women's rights! That takes Moxie to pull off!
Or at least a major cranial injury!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:44 AM
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3. Because her grandsons daddy is a porn star
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:00 AM
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4. she's an excellent bad example.
WWSD? Do the opposite.

1. When your water breaks, don't delay 17 hours for medical care - very dangerous for kid.

2. If your infant has major health issues, don't drag him to a political convention and have an eight year old care for him, especially when it's nearer to midnight than sundown.

3. Don't deny your teenage daughter contraceptives, then allow her boyfriend a sleepover, then act surprise about your impending grandma-hood.

4. Speaking of surprises, don't trot out your kids for every photo op, then whine about the media taking an interest in them.

5. Speaking of whining, don't. It's so 1950's.

6. If you start a job, don't cut and run half way through.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:47 AM
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7. + 1
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:10 AM
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5. should`t that be republican women?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:11 AM
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6. She's a perfect example of WHAT NOT TO BE as a woman!
I have more respect for a crack whore living on the street.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 12:27 PM
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12. there you go. i could find nothing i could vote on the poll. i could vote this. what NOT to be. n
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 12:02 PM
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8. None of the above. She's not a "role model" though she may be a
useful idiot to show people the differences between feminismS and women-in-power. So many seem to equate one with the other.

FeminismS come in many different categories regardless of what rushbo, his ilk, and their (un)suspecting audience may propagate to and through the media and to (un)suspecting consumers and other useful idiots.

The common thread I've found throughout FeminismS is challenge of the status quo. The status quo being the webs of systems of authoritarian and hierarchical control used by the dominant culture and its proponents, to acquire and maintain control over the "the masses" and which is usually referred to in shorthand as ~patriarchy~. A more accurate description might be Kyriarchy.

a neologism coined by Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza and derived from the Greek words for "lord" or "master" (kyrios) and "to rule or dominate" (archein) which seeks to redefine the analytic category of patriarchy in terms of multiplicative intersecting structures of domination... Kyriarchy is best theorized as a complex pyramidal system of intersecting multiplicative social structures of superordination and subordination, of ruling and oppression. (emphasis added)



The one exception I've found to this common thread is the power-feminists. Their only challenge of the status quo is who it is who should be in control of the Kyriarchy. Some prefer that systems of domination should be led by women who in their world view, are kindler, gentler despots, i.e., they support a matriarchy with themselves at the top of the pyramid. Other power-feminists are perfectly happy to aid and abet the Kyriarchy if they are allowed a powerful position themselves; these would be the likes of sarah palin, phyllis shlafley, michelle malkin, ann coulter, etc.; that is, the r/w "feminists."

As perhaps you can tell, I don't have much respect for the power-feminist perversion of FeminismS. I am especially angry that this is frequently embraced and touted as THE feminism by those who would use it as justification to ridicule, deride, and derail those issues which many Feminists have, and continue to, address; health care, "domestic" violence, LGBTQ rights, reproductive rights, poverty issues, educational issues, etc.; oh, and the Kyriarchy.

So yeah, I consider ms(informed) palin as the antithesis of FeminismS who may perhaps be useful to point out what my view of FeminismS is and who might, finally, get the other useful idiots to see that it is not de facto that woman-in-power=Feminist.

We've got a generation now who were born with semiequality. They don't know how it was before, so they think, this isn't too bad. We're working. We have our attache' cases and our three piece suits. I get very disgusted with the younger generation of women. We had a torch to pass, and they are just sitting there. They don't realize it can be taken away. Things are going to have to get worse before they join in fighting the battle. ~Erma Bombeck



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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 12:04 PM
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9. ...the calendar somehow turned back to 1955.
:eyes:
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politicoguru Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 12:19 PM
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10. Puke!
All this Palin talk (positive or negative) makes my stomach turn.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 12:26 PM
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11. hopefully she wont be a role model. cause there is no "good" for women concerns. nt
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