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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:00 AM
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I wish PETA could stop this. SICK F*****
The Chinese have developed a way of deep frying a fish so that it remains alive while you eat it.

WARNING
WARNING_ Disturbing video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BYPuLnAscA

This is wrong on so many levels! I watched 2 seconds of that video, and that was enough.

I will never understand this type of thing.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:02 AM
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1. I'll take your word for it
I can't stand to look at that kind of thing. :cry:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:07 AM
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2. Reprehensible how they were playing with the fish, teasing it.
:puke:
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:16 AM
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3. that is sick
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:22 AM
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I remember Walter Cronkite talking about this on a trip to China

If memory serves me, they brought it out, still breathing, and although it was considered a delicacy, his wife took off her shoe in order to try to hit it/kill it to put it out of its misery.

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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:22 AM
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4. Who thinks up this shit???????????
I shudder to think how else this method will be used. I also shudder to think of what other methods are developed.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:25 AM
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5. a Japanese client told us about eels

They would throw the eel into steaming hot water and slam a lid on with a hole in the lid just smaller than the eel. In a desperate attempt to get out of the hot water, the eel tries forcing itself through the hole, and in the process, ends up skinning itself alive.

There is something wrong with these people. Seriously wrong.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:31 AM
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19. mmm ... lobster ...
Edited on Tue Nov-17-09 06:31 AM by zbdent
edited to add:

:sarcasm:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:39 AM
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6. I enjoy a good plate of fried fish but this is too sick.
It's still alive. :puke:

That's not right.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:51 AM
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7. I think sometimes there's too much lead in their bowls of melamine.
This is some horrible, disgusting shit.

It also reminds me of another story I read about -- here, I believe -- a year or so ago.

Some researcher (either American or European) was in a cold part of China for some climate research or something, and there were several dogs on hand at the camp site. This researcher befriended one of the dogs and it was typical for the researcher to spend an hour or more each day playing and unwinding with his doggy friend. On the final day of the expedition, unbeknownst to the researcher, the Chinese contingent killed that favorite dog and roasted it for a "feast".

Needless to say the visitor was highly traumatized by this, and attempts to explain the wrongness of it through translators just produced a lot of blank stares.

It gets harder and harder for me to say "it's not the Chinese people who piss me off, it's their government", while keeping a straight face.

:grr:
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 05:54 AM
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8. what was wrong with them killing their own dog for a feast
Needless to say the visitor was highly traumatized by this, and attempts to explain the wrongness of it through translators just produced a lot of blank stares.


it seems the guy was trying to force his values and beliefs on the chinese contingent, if its their dog and its their culture that eating dogs is okay then WTF. Unless you think that your culture is the best on the planet.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:04 AM
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9. Mmmmmmkay
QQ
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:06 AM
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10. oops kinda worded that wierd, was aiming the crap at the guy who was lecturing the chinese guys
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:16 AM
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11. I think this story goes beyond the cultural differences over
what is acceptable to eat.

I think chickens are the one of the most inane animals ever to be considered a pet. That is a bias of mine, and I am sure there are people who might disagree. Having said that, I considered what I would do if I saw that someone had become attached to a chicken that I could care less about. I consider its best home to ultimately be in a pot.

I think and hope that I would realize that for whatever reason, that bird meant something to someone. I might not be able to fathom it, but I hope I wouldn't grab it up for the next stew when mealtime came.

The actions of the Chinese point to another vast chasm in understanding between cultures. They may not recognize that it would cause trauma, but apparently it never crossed their minds that any connection could exist. I'm sure that we may do something on par that might or might not involve an animal.

In addition, I think the man was rightly upset and at that time tried to explain his feelings. I doubt if he was trying to force his beliefs on them for the long term. I think he just wanted to try to give them a clue about why he went over the edge then.

I am not going to claim cultural superiority, but I will wonder about them not seeing an obvious connection. I'm sure they would wonder about me as well.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:21 AM
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13. well put and better than i did as well, i just think that to them the guy was playing with his food
literally, it always amazes me when people go to other cultures and then get a shock when they find out that the cultural mores are alien to them... the chicken is a great one to use, as my friend raises them and hes had the thing were his kids or guests wonty eat a certain bird...
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:23 AM
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15. As I said,
eating a dog was probably bad enough for that man to understand. He may or may not have gotten somewhat used to that. However, eating his buddy upped it to another level of WTF for him.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:25 AM
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16. lol yup definetly upped the WTF. that one made me laugh
i guess we are always going to be separated as a species by what we consider food :)
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:20 AM
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12. There's a general taboo in most societies against eating companion animals.
The Chinese are really fucked up when it comes to this kind of stuff--they're the ones who have endangered rhinos because old Chinese men want some harder peckerwood.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:22 AM
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14. dude i dont think a rhino is a companion animal to begin with :)
but as you say it all depends on wether you see an animal as a companion or as a food source. to americans dogs are companions to the chinese they are lunch...
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:27 AM
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17. But, if the dogs were kept around as companions, in most parts of
China it would be considered really gross to eat them too.

Imagine if someone had one of those pot-bellied pigs as a pet, you played with it all afternoon, and the next morning they served it to you with eggs.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:29 AM
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18. honestly it wouldnt bother me, i grew up raising and killing animals for food
Edited on Tue Nov-17-09 06:30 AM by vadawg
so i look at it from that point of view, the only thing i ever had a problem with was some pigeons when i was real young. I guess it just depends on how you get your food or how you got it growing up...


well gotta go shift change, time to go home, have a great day...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:49 AM
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22. And tiger penis, bird's nest soup,
Edited on Tue Nov-17-09 06:51 AM by Enthusiast
shark fin soup, bear gall bladders and other folksy Chinese dietary oddities. This is the reason I will give no credence to traditional Chinese medicine, including acupuncture. Anyone that believes tiger penis or rhino horn is a cure for erectile disfunction has no credibility with me on medical issues.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:31 AM
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20. I'll take your word about the video. It would depress me too much to watch it.
Shark Fin Soup, slaughtering Dolphins... maybe things aren't as advanced in terms of the human race as we believe.
Let's not forget that bears are being poached all around the world for a few body parts.

A poaching ring that involved the slaughter of more than 400 black bears in the Northeast was broken today with the arrests of 23 people in five states, officials said.

They said the bears were killed for their gall bladders, which are prized as aphrodisiacs in the East.

"This is just the tip of this particular iceberg," said Walter Bickford, commissioner of the Massachusetts Department of Fisheries, Wildlife and Environmental Law Enforcement. "We're aware of numerous other operations like this."



Two links to further prove that the human race needs a new moral compass:


http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/issues_facing_wildlife/wildlife_trade/the_unbearable_trade_in_bear_parts_and_bile/the_bear_trade_questions_and_answers.html
http://www.savejapandolphins.org/

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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:33 AM
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21. Yeah, I saw a video report on that about a year ago
I first learned about it on one of those bizarre food programs on the Travel Channel. It was thoroughly disgusting. In this program they were also eating live octopi or squid and laughing as they sadistically toyed with their meals. It was just too sickening so I turned the channel.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 06:53 AM
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23. Wow---now that's fresh.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 07:01 AM
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24. The World’s Wildest Delicacies - live monkey brains, tarantula others

Live monkey brains. After the monkey is inebriated, it is placed on the table to await the hungry diners.

http://www.impactlab.com/2007/09/24/the-worlds-wildest-delicacies/


:puke:
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 07:33 AM
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25. I can't watch it.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:17 AM
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26. Yay for cuddlytarians!
Thankfully, we here in America would never think of doing something as cruel as hanging a pig up by one foot, slitting his throat, and letting him bleed out as he thrashes around wildly. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWUZDwYlbg8&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD7yKSk-DgA&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvWt8gwa5zo&feature=related)

Thankfully, we here in America would never do something as needlessly cruel as that

Thankfully, we here in America would never think of screwing electrodes into brains of cats who were adopted from local shelters (http://www.peta.org/FeatureUtahLabsRobert.asp), or making baby monkeys psychotic by providing them no contact with anything other than a metal Monster Mother who occasionally will shock them as they attempt to cuddle with it(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow#Surrogate_mother_experiment), in the name of "research."

Oh wait...
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:24 AM
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27. Pigs are more intelligent that cats and dogs
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:43 AM
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28. And they are sick f***** too.
Just because someone opposes one situation, it doesn't mean that other situations not noted are given a pass. If one had to list everything that was pro and con to the given article, there would be no time to even try to debate the OP.

Cuddly animals are usually by definition creatures people are drawn to. That doesn't mean that other animals have no worth or should have open season for cruelty declared upon them. Calling someone a 'cuddlytarian' presupposes that they only are interested in those animals that meet that criteria.

In addition, one person's cuddly may be another person's icky.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 11:48 AM
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29. So I assume you don't eat bacon? n/t
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