Who is the Democrat's "Sarah Palin"?

[Liberal_in_LA]

on the Dem's side, who's running around talking nonsense, thinking they are the next coming, embarrassing Dems?

[classof56]

1. I can't think of anyone, but if there's money in it, I'll volunteer!

Sorry...just kidding of course. Happens when I hit the Merlot too early!

Blessings!

[Liberal_in_LA]

2. I'm looking for Dem that makes lib cringe when they hear his/her name

[karynnj]

27. That might not be the right method as the more conservative don't cringe

If I had to characterize her, I would list these things:

- Willing to take extreme positions
- Plays a lot on the fact that she is good looking and has a media segment that loved her.
- Sparked dislike on our side that was at an almost visceral level.
- Used the person who lifted her to the fame she had and turned on him.
- short history of service to her country.
- big knowledge deficit


I seriously cannot think of a Democrat who was not better on facts and basic knowledge - so to find our "Sarah Palin", I eliminated that. I know some will be angry, but the closest I can think of is John Edwards circa 2006 - 2008 - but even then he did not move as far to the left as she did to the right.

[fumsm]

26. Lieberman

[NewJeffCT]

3. Nobody at her level, but I'm sure they'll find one Democratic woman

who said something mildly controversial and make them equivalent. Maybe some actress from Hollywood?

[karynnj]

28. Why a woman?

[NewJeffCT]

36. To make them the Democratic equivalent of Palin

a man would be the Democratic equivalent of Bush or Cheney or similar.

[karynnj]

39. Not necessarily, I would assume that her characteristics are not uniguely feminine

[NewJeffCT]

41. No, they are not

but, women tend to get compared to other women, while men get compared to other men. It's rare for comparisons to cross gender or race, even if there are legitimate items to compare.

[karynnj]

50. I am aware of that being true, but here I think there are characteristics of Palin

that are the real problem that really could exist with both men or women. The fact is the media has created at least some people who pick on the same basis of characteristics that are more suitable for American Idol than the Presidency.

I did not look for a female Democratic "Sarah Palin" because there was no woman ever considered to be a serious candidate for our nomination who fits that definition. (The fact is that to date there has really only been one woman who was a serious contender and she absolutely does not fit the Palin description. I actually cringed when she got the question this Sunday on whether she thought both she and Palin were discriminated against as women.) The only other woman of comparable status is Nacy Pelosi, who completely does not fit that role. I thought that "being considered a serious candidate for the Presidency" was more important than gender, so I eliminated that.

I suspect that the long process to win an open nomination will reject the "Palin" candidates, both on the left and right. Notice that neither Dan Quayle or John Edwards ever came close to winning a nomination on their own - even though in 2004, there were many in the media cheering John Edwards on well after it was obvious that John Kerry was going to be the nominee. In some ways party insiders who pushed these three people on more serious, more qualified Presidential nominees as the people who will best appeal to American voters may seriously underestimate the voters.

[Bitwit1234]

40. A democratic woman could never get away with doing 1/10

of the stuff Palin and Bachmann have done. And since they raised a fuss about Bachmann using her federal website for her personal gain we haven't hear much from her have we. I still think the ethic committee should investigate her for inciting to riot and telling people to harm representatives.

[NewJeffCT]

43. You're 100% right

As I said, something mildly controversial and out of context will be blown way out of proportion and suddenly, the media will label this Democrat as the liberal Sarah Palin.

[itsrobert]

4. How about someone that goes by...

Liberal_in_LA?

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. ouch! ha ha

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

6. Traficant was an embarrassment

Ach du Lieberman is an embarrassment for different reasons.

I can't think of one who is truly a Democratic parrallel to the Moose Lady.

[napi21]

7. Dems are too smart to have a nutball like Sarah!

As for drawing crowds, Hillary did quite well! So did Barack!

[karynnj]

29. What of the third choice, John Edwards?

He drew crowds and part of his appeal was his looks. Palin does repeat beliefs that her base agrees with. The main point where they differ is that he is intelligent, but he is just as opportunistic.

[Liberal_in_LA]

30. We know that now, but when Edwards was running we thought he was great

[karynnj]

37. True, but Palin's base thinks she is great

Edwards is more intelligent, but was not really more substantial.

The hard thing is to I limited myself to those who generated the crowds and support. I suspect that like Edwards was limited to no more than 15%, I suspect that may be the case with Palin as well, but I suspect the intensity of her voters will be has committed as his.

[Egnever]

48. Sorry no WE didn't

He was an obvious phony to me and many others here from the get go. I didn't realize it reached the gargantuan levels he finally ended with but I knew mr patriot act of full of it from the beginning.

[izzybeans]

8. Lieberman

[Walk away]

9. That's a riot! n/t

[bridgit]

10. Got that right!

[izzybeans]

16. Ha!

[izzybeans]

17. Ha!

[joeybee12]

11. Yup, if cringing is the criteria, i cringe when I hear his name...n/t

[GoCubsGo]

13. Lieberman isn't a Democrat

He left the party in 2007. He caucuses with the Democrats--only when it benefits HIM.

[izzybeans]

15. Exactly what reminds me of Palin.

Same diva mentality, different party.

[GoCubsGo]

51. I see your point!

LOL!

[Egnever]

49. Sad how many think he is.

specialy here.

[madinmaryland]

25. DUzy!!

:rofl:

[AllentownJake]

12. Blago was nuts

but we 86d him

[Liberal_in_LA]

23. We have had plenty in the criminal category unfortunately

[Starry Messenger]

14. Stupak

This picture under definition of "tool":

[Cartoonist]

18. Kucinich

His vote against health care secured him the position. Mention his name in mixed company and the consensus is that he will never be elected to federal office.

Cynthia McKinney gets put down here.

[AllentownJake]

19. The bill is shit and he did the right thing

however, the delusional types will bash Dennis K, because their hero is a corporatist dream.

[Cartoonist]

20. I know who agrees with you

Sarah and the entire republican party.

[AllentownJake]

21. Yeah and Goldman Sachs agrees with Tim Geithner on policy

except the difference is I disagree with this bill for entirely different reasons than Sarah and the GOP.

[frylock]

22. mention his name in his congressional district..

and he's elected every time. fuck your "mixed company."

[Cartoonist]

24. Unmixed then

I was just answering the original question. To progressives, Sarah Palin is THEIR Goddess. To conservatives, Kucinich is OUR basket case.

[Raine]

32. That's just BULL SHIT

and ridiculous, there is no comparison.

[WeDidIt]

31. Dennis Kucinich n/t

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34. Sheila Jackson Lee

Laughable in so many ways.

[drm604]

35. Blago?

Can I choose a man?

[Liberal_in_LA]

38. of course, no gender implied in my OP

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Anybody who talks about homeopathy or the "moon bombing" with a straight face.

Fortunately, I don't think any of them are elected.

[Bonn1997]

44. You must have a low opinion of Thom Hartmann nt

[Warren DeMontague]

46. Guess so. Does he think sugar water can cure ailments or that NASA "bombed" the moon?

If so, he's full of shit.

[Nyquil Man]

45. The Democrats have had a demagogue gap since the 60s,

when all the Dixiecrats switched parties.

[Amonester]

47. Tina Fey =D

Kidding!

:rofl:

[HamdenRice]

52. Kucinich. UFOs are as crazy as witches and exorcism

Plus the Kooch's votes in Congress against most progressive legislation recently make him as "rogue" as Sarah.

[oedura]

54. With all respect...

They're really not.

[Doctor_J]

53. No one that stupid would be a Dem

[geek tragedy]

55. The Silky Phony, John Edwards.

Bid himself out to Obama and Clinton for a VP slot, cheated on a cancer-stricken wife (twice!), fathered a baby out of wedlock, postured as a populist while wallowing in hedge fund money and buying himself a palace.

All-around narcissist and poseur.

[jmowreader]

56. Someone you would never, ever count as a Democrat

The Democrats' Sarah Palin is Fred Phelps. He's a registered Dem, thinks his shit don't stink and respectable Democrats attempt to pawn him off on the other side every time he does anything, which is frequently.

I'm sorry, but no one else comes close. Kucinich has been a good guy for a very long time. Edwards is a good guy. Cynthia McKinney has her charms. The only Dem who is so consistently wrong as Sarah Palin is Phelps.

[sufrommich]

57. Cynthia McKinney . nt

[Odin2005]

58. Kucinich.

[spanone]

59. i won't belong to a party that has such a lame tool