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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:38 PM
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Congressional hearings BEFORE Pres. Obama makes his Afghanistan decision?
from Miles Mogulescu at HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/congress-must-hold-emerge_b_359396.html


AS President Obama contemplates perhaps the most fateful decision of his young Presidency--whether to commit tens of thousands of additional American soldiers and most likely hundreds of billions of additional funds to a civil war in central Asia that could well last for the rest of his Presidency--it is vital that the debate not be confined to White House but also involve the Congress and the American people.

Under the Constitution, the President is the Commander in Chief, but it is the Congress that has the power to declare War and appropriate funds. Too often, in the past 60 years, Presidents have committed American troops to foreign wars on the shakiest of Congressional authorization. After that, the only alternative to those in Congress who might question the decision is to cut off funds. But doing so when large numbers of American troops are already engaged in combat on foreign soil is a politically dangerous endeavor and only takes place under the most dire of circumstances.

Therefore, the time is now--before President Obama makes these momentous and near irreversible decisions--for The Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the House Appropriations Committee to call emergency hearings on Afghanistan to fully air the pros and cons of committing large numbers of additional troops and tens or hundreds of billions of additional dollars for an open ended war.

As Daniel Ellsberg (the former Pentagon official turned Vietnam War critic who released the Pentagon Papers) reminded a crowd in Los Angeles last week, the Fall of 2009 is very much like the Summer of 1965 when LBJ and his military and civilian advisors debated whether to increase American troop commitments in South Vietnam from about 23,000 "advisors" (less than the 68,000 now stationed in Afghanistan) to several hundred thousand combat troops.

(Ellsberg might also have mentioned that it's also much like 1962, when another young President, John F. Kenndy, was getting conflicting advice about sending American ground troops to Laos, but eventually refused, to the dismay of many of his generals.)


read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/congress-must-hold-emerge_b_359396.html
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:41 PM
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1. If it holds off an escalation, and has potential to start a withdrawal,
I am all for it. But, a whitewash would be worse.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:42 PM
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2. well
. . . we do pretty much know the temperature there. Witness the Iraq debates when we regained control which pretty much codified Bush's unilateral agreement with the Maliki regime.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:44 PM
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3. I think we had 550,000 boots on the ground at the height of the American
war in Vietnam.

And yes, please order up another helicopter.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:49 PM
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4. Does HuffPo read other sources, at all, or ever?
Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings this year. (Easily accessible by anyone with an internet connection and some curiosity about if Senators are paying attention to current events)

Tuesday, February 11, 2009
FOREIGN POLICY IMPLICATIONS
OF THE
GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS
Time: 2:30 P.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
********************************

Thursday, February 26, 2009
ENGAGING WITH MUSLIM
COMMUNITIES
AROUND THE WORLD
Time: 2:30 P.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
**********************************

Monday, March 16, 2009
**CLOSED/TOP SECRET/CODEWORD**
GLOBAL COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS
Time: 10:00 A.M.
Place: SVC-217 Capitol Building Thursday, March 5, 2009

U.S. STRATEGY REGARDING IRAN
Time: 10:30 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building Tuesday, March 3, 2009

IRANIAN POLITICAL AND
NUCLEAR REALITIES AND
U.S. POLICY OPTIONS
Time: 10:00 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building

*******************************************
Tuesday, March 31, 2009
THE RETURN
AND RESETTLEMENT
OF DISPLACED IRAQIS
Time: 2:45 P.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
*******************************

Thursday, April 23, 2009
VOICE OF VETERANS
OF THE AFGHAN WAR
Time: 10:15 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
*******************************

Tuesday, April 28, 2009
WAR POWERS IN THE 21ST CENTURY
Time: 10:00 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
*************************************

Tuesday, May 12, 2009
U.S. STRATEGY
TOWARD PAKISTAN
Time: 10:15 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building Tuesday, May 12, 2009

NATO POST-60:
INSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES
MOVING FORWARD
Time: 2:30 P.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building Wednesday, May 6, 2009

ENGAGING IRAN:
OBSTACLES AND OPPORTUNITIES
Time: 9:30 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
******************************

Thursday, May 14, 2009
THE MIDDLE EAST:
THE ROAD TO PEACE
Time: 2:00 P.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
*********************************

Wednesday, May 20, 2009
DEVELOPMENTS ON
THE GROUND IN
PAKISTAN AND AFGHANISTA
Time: 11:00 A.M.
CLOSED / TOP SECRET / CODEWORD
Place: SVC-217 Capitol Building Wednesday, May 20, 2009

DEVELOPING A
COORDINATED AND
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGY
FOR SOMALIA
Time: 9:00 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building
*********************************

Wednesday, June 3, 2009
BRIEFING
CLOSED / TOP SECRET / CODEWORD
SECURITY OF PAKISTAN’S
NUCLEAR PROGRAM
Time: 11:00 A.M.
Place: SVC-217 Capitol Office Building
May
Thursday, May 21, 2009

A NEW STRATEGY FOR
AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN
Time: 10:00 A.M.
Place: 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building Wednesday, May 20, 2009

FOREIGN POLICY PRIORITIES
IN THE PRESIDENT’S FY10
INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS BUDGET
Time: 1:30 P.M.
Place: 216 Hart Senate Office Building

************************

And more and more and more after May.

Ah, obviously, Huffington Post doesn't care.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:55 PM
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5. so when they are approving the money
. . . they should just refer back to these disassociated hearings?

Should that be the case with every new initiative, or just those relating to money for Afghanistan?
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FreeJG Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 03:19 PM
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6.  Where is John Kerry?
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