Really?

[Stinky The Clown]

Do **you** really, deep down, in your moments of personal honesty, think the US economy is recovering?

[NYC_SKP]

1. Yes, but only in the sense that it's no longer burning to ashes. n/t

[SoCalNative]

2. Yes

but only because corporations have been able to shed costs by getting rid of employees and therefore their bottom lines are better.

Hence the "economic recovery but no jobs recovery" meme.

[FSogol]

3. Yes, my company is receiving more work. In January, we plan

on adding 2 engineers.

[1awake]

4. Yes,

but imo it could go either way with a slight push.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Of course.

It went down. Hit bottom this summer or there abouts. Now it's started its way back up.

That's how economies work.

[Cerridwen]

6. For some, perhaps.

Even if "the economy" recovers, for many it'll be too late.

Of course, "those type of people" probably "deserved" it so we won't worry about them.

Yeah, I'm using the :sarcasm: tag this time.

[tridim]

7. It's recovering up to the point where it was before..

Which is to say a level that is still unsustainable and grossly unfair to most people who aren't filthy rich.

Step 2 should address these issues.

[grasswire]

8. we won't know for some time yet

...because apparently there are several other shoes yet to drop. Commercial real estate bubble, second round of ARM resetting, etc.

[WeDidIt]

9. Absolutely

Every indicator says so.

[marmar]

36. The absolute freefall plummet might be over.....but recovery? Heh.

nt

[WeDidIt]

41. There was growth during the third quarter

Ergo, recovery.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. Who is so displeased at this post ......

.... that they unrec it? Apart from the one who already replied here and can be counted upon to do it?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. People feel it's unfit for the greatest page.

Plus, they could tell it's just another one of your vanity posts.

I mean, you've got a cartoon of a cheerleader and an ostrich.

I'm so glad you're so upset this thread didn't turn out the way you wanted it to.

:rofl:

[Stinky The Clown]

25. Hey man

Thanks for keeping it real. We all look to you to judge what's right and fair and, by gosh, the good old American way, yessiree.

I hereby declare you that very smartest person on DU. And so self controlled, And so knowing of what people think, and what's right.

Wow. You are just so special. And to think. Here you are. In my lowly thread telling me what's right. I'm really grateful for that.

The cheerleader was you.

The ostrich, not so much.

And you're really a fun distraction in my lonely world. Sort of like a cat and mouse kinda thing. Amusing. Ya know.

Its funny. You claim to know what I feel and think, but by gawd, you read every damned thing I post, dont'cha, boy?

[Stinky The Clown]

26. "People" feel ...... ?

You speaking for others or just yourself?

If others ... who? "People" you talk to online?

[Stinky The Clown]

27. This is a discussion board. Thjis post was to :gasp: start a discussion

I know that bothers you because an actual discussion may go against your little view of things.

By the way .... you're lookin' good these days.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Oh dear, it appears I've hit a nerve.

Yes, it's a discussion board. The thing is, you were never interested in discussion. You wanted everybody to agree with you, and you got upset when you didn't. So you started with the cartoons when what you really wanted was your own personal cheerleaders.

[Stinky The Clown]

31. There ya do again, Dr. Frist

Nice diagnosis.

[Terry in Austin]

11. Not really

"Recovery" is kind of a loaded term.

Between the lines, it means "going back to the la-la good times before the Big Bubble popped."

I for one don't think that's going to happen. We can hope it was just another business cycle, but more likely, we're seeing a fundamental structural shift.

[Taverner]

12. What part? Yeah, the rich are getting richer

But new jobs?

[sinkingfeeling]

13. Yes, things are better than a year ago.

[liberal N proud]

14. Ever so slowly but yes there are signs of recovery

Travel restriction have been lifted for my company. We can purchase office supplies again.

I know they are not huge signs but they are some of the things that were clamped down on as a result of the recession.

[Junkdrawer]

15. Show me the jobs, then I'll believe...

Since bank profits are part of GDP, it's just too easy to lend banks money at no interest and watch them make piles of profit.

[immoderate]

16. No.

Automation is replacing the middle class. There is not enough meaningful work for a large portion of the population.

--imm

[madinmaryland]

17. Yes, but very slowly.

For us we, lost half of our employees, but we still have a long way to go.

[ieoeja]

18. Yes

[seabeyond]

19. no. all indicators as far as our personal investments, yes. but no

i really do not believe their is the confidence, or the job, or the living wage that will allow a recovery

[Brickbat]

20. The market, yes. The economy, too soon to say.

[rucky]

21. It is not sustainable.

[blues90]

22. NO.

[cherokeeprogressive]

23. Nnnnope.

[Froward69]

29. Stabilized

No growth as yet but then again I believe the republicans are so ardent upon Obamas failure. where ever they have the ability to stall/curtail growth they are doing so.

[SteppingRazor]

30. Short- and medium-term, absolutely.

The signs are everywhere. GDP's up, almost every indicator of economic growth is higher than it was a few months ago. Even the job market is better in that we're not losing jobs at even remotely the same rate as we were when Obama took office.

All that said, long-term, I think we're just back in the same boom-bust cycle that has become the hallmark of the modern American economy. Without real economic reform, which means tighter regulation, a return of Glass-Steagall, etc., all we've done is back up away from the cliff, only to rev our engines and head right back for it.

[Nye Bevan]

32. Restauarants around here seem to be getting busier

I went to Outback the other night and it was fuller than I have seen it in months. I'm also starting to get unsolicited credit card offers in the mail again, after a pretty long hiatus. I need to try to remember how to get back on that "do not mail" list. So yes, I think Obama and his team are starting to turn things around.

[DU GrovelBot]

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34. Just a little less than I believe that Sarah Palin is a genius or that Elvis lives.

[Yuugal]

35. The food pantries for the working poor are hopping here

The shelves are almost totally empty and they are turning hungry people away so business in that sector is growing by leaps and bounds! WOOOHOOOO!!

[Extend a Hand]

37. no.

[damntexdem]

38. What moments of personal honesty?

Who can afford such things in this economy?

[pleah]

39. No. 11 more people laid off last week.

Where my husband works.

[tjwash]

40. Recovering from a depression to a recession

My company has been getting more work, and we are hiring people. It sure beats seeing people get shown the door.

[Vincardog]

42. If by recovery you mean that the Enron accountants can Cook the books to show whatever you want. NT

[Horse with no Name]

43. LOL. No.

I have noticed the past couple of paychecks--I spent more on basically the same stuff.
I expect it to only get worse.