Crazy idea I had for countering a pro life rally

[ashling]

> Instead of opposing them across a baricade, infiltrate and take over the message

> If they have 100 people show up with signs that say pro life / abortion kills babies,
have 300 people show up with signs that say: pro life / more money for public schools, pro life / health care is a right; pro life/ abolish the death penalty;
overwhelm their anti - abortion message with a real pro life message from within their ranks.


Now, before all the naysayers and pessimists jump in and tell me that my idea is stupid, or I'm stupid, or it will never work, or whatever, Don't

This is just a crazy thought that I had while trying to go to sleep last night. It is not intended to be anything more than that, so if you feel that you have to jump in and tell me why it won't work, you are just showing your own self righteous a**.

:bounce:

[walldude]

1. So you post this "crazy" idea and then

demand that people don't respond in the negative? Good luck!

[ashling]

6. I'm not demanding anything

[walldude]

26. Did you not write this:

Now, before all the naysayers and pessimists jump in and tell me that my idea is stupid, or I'm stupid, or it will never work, or whatever, Don't.


Looks like a demand to me.

[ashling]

28. Followed by this - its called context

This is just a crazy thought that I had while trying to go to sleep last night. It is not intended to be anything more than that, so if you feel that you have to jump in and tell me why it won't work, you are just showing your own self righteous a**.

[Zoeisright]

2. I think that's a great idea!

The 'pro-life' people won't accept it, because it's perfectly all right to kill post-birth humans, of course.

[ashling]

8. The idea is to infiltrate their ranks by agreeing with a generic pro life message

and then overwhelm their anti-abortion posters with pro-contrception, every child a wanted chile. healthcare, prenatal care, etc.

[Winterblues]

3. I say go for it...Virtually everyone knows they are not Pro-Life but Anti-Abortion

Real Pro-Lifers want to end the wars and end the death penalty and end tobacco usage and end torture, and bring about real Health Care Reform. That is waht Pro-Life is about...Pro-Life....

[Sinti]

4. Yes. Absolutely

Make them live up to the "Pro-Life" stance, not just anti-choice. Fewer abortions happen with easy access to contraception and good prenatal care - do they want to deal with the real issue, or their made for TV slogan?

[Larkspur]

5. My favorite idea is "Satanists for Life!"

have someone dress up in gothic garb, chains, spikes, and make-up and join the anti-abortionist rally chanting

"Satanists for Life!
Must stop abortion now so that
Satan has more souls to corrupt!
Satan is for Life!"

[ashling]

12. better be careful,

your liable to end up being the subject of an impromptu excorcism and laying on of hands.
:rofl:

[EndersDame]

7. War kills so many babies

[ashling]

10. exactly

war aborts innocent lives!

[Echo In Light]

22. Ask them if they support war, is dropping high explosives on pregnant women akin to abortion?

...as in, 'supporting' it?

Don't count on finding any consistency on that one.

[ashling]

30. I'm not expecting to find any consistency at all

just want to take over their event

[Echo In Light]

38. US impact in Fallujah, Iraq: 1 in 4 babies die in first week

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6806486

[Cirque du So-What]

9. I never turn down constructive criticism

but that's just me. Your plan seems perfectly sound to me.

[ashling]

11. I never turn down CONSTRUCTIVE criticism,

that was just my rant about people who feel compelled to tell everybody else why they are stupid. There are plenty of people like that on DU.

[ingac70]

13. Better to have signs saying....

"Muslim countries ban abortion" and "Why do you want to be like the terrorists?"

They go into meltdown mode when you use their own tactics on them.

[EndersDame]

14. "If you want a theocracy so bad why don't you move to Iran"

or "Allah is against abortion"

[ashling]

21. My ppoint is precisely to NOT do that

Don't confront, infiltrate and overwhelm. Turn their own message against them

[Omaha Steve]

15. Pro Life -ANTI WAR!

My sign is ready to print. :-)

[Cleita]

16. "The Billionaires For Wealthcare Operate on the same principle of agreeing

with the tea baggers and then hijacking the message. Oh, the Billionaires make fun of them as well. Go for it.

[me b zola]

17. Abolish the death penalty! n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

18. So what happens if some of the people there agree with you?

Just out of curiousity's sake?

[ashling]

20. And that is a problem?

Give them a sign!
:rofl:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. So just to be clear....

...you do think it is possible for someone to be anti-abortion as a legal right (to whatever extent), and also against the death penalty and for health care reform?

Again, I'm just asking.

[druidity33]

25. at least that's consistent,

though i'd add anti-war to that list of "pro-life" stances...

:shrug:

[ashling]

31. yes, but again

that is no the point

[Tommy_Carcetti]

36. Fair enough. nt

[Sinti]

24. That's always the price for this type of thing - you've got to have good ideas.

If they truly want to reduce abortions, or eliminate them, rather than criminalize them, then they will listen to the facts that abortions don't go away when criminalized. They simply kill and/or incarcerate women. Abortions are most greatly reduced with access to contraception, good information, and pre-natal care - all things we are in big favor of.

[rucky]

19. Pro Life / Pro Same-Sex Adoption

That'll make some heads esplode.

[stiplic]

27. Love it!

They don't give a shit about life.

[dana_b]

29. it's not crazy

it's a really good idea.

[ashling]

32. Thank you

:)

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[ashling]

34. I'd love to, but right now I don't have any money

just ideas :shrug: ... but as soon as I can I fully intend to.

[StarfarerBill]

35. And smuggle in coathangers...

...lots of coathangers.

[ashling]

37. My concept is to make it

not about abortion at all, just pro life