Self-described Pedophile defends his predilections on Twitter

[Ian David]

http://twitter.com/p3do

Hat-tip to:

#PedophileAlertPSA: @p3do is a pedophile piece of garbage flaunting his perversion on Twitter. This is a public service announcement! Pls RT
http://twitter.com/Michelle_McKee/status/5753827496

WTF!?!

[LuvNewcastle]

1. WTF indeed!

[dschis]

2. Shhessshhhh!!!! Makes my skin crawl!

[Stargazer09]

3. Ick!

I consider myself to be open minded about sex, but that person makes me sick.

Children are NOT adults! They certainly aren't mature enough to make decisions about sexual activity, especially considering all of the consequences.

He keeps comparing himself to gays and lesbians, as if pedophilia is just another orientation. Maybe it is, maybe it's not, but having sex with children is wrong on so many levels.

[Name removed]

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[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

5. What?

Wow.

[tmyers09]

8. Don't get me wrong, it's not right whatsoever...

but I just don't think that these people are "lost causes". Get them help so they can be a normal member of society, don't just make them outcasts. Of course those who are rapists should be imprisoned and such, I'm not saying they shouldn't be.

[seabeyond]

64. have you dont any research to educate yourself ..... yet? nt

[FreeState]

6. Its not a fetish

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fetish

fet⋅ish   Show IPA
–noun
1. an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.
2. any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.
3. Psychology. any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.


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People that have sexual attraction towards children need help - those that act one those feelings and/or advocate acting on those feelings need to be locked up far far way from access to children.

[spoony]

9. I dunno about being a fetish, but you make a number of good points.

People don't choose to whom they're attracted, plus I don't imagine anyone would choose to be attracted to children given the societal implications of that. Driving them into the shadows instead of treating them just makes more child victims.

[tmyers09]

11. Exactly.

Plus, shunning somebody can lead to depression or mental illness, which could cause somebody to something crazy, like rape or kidnap etc.

[proteus_lives]

10. Help them? Pedos can't be fixed.

They want to rape children. That's all they want to do.

"but I don't think somebody should be punished for feelings"

If those feelings are positive ones about child-rape? Then yes, they should be punished.

"Help them be rehabilitated or something"

They can't be. They're like rabid dogs. You can't fix them. They should be in prison or dead.

[tmyers09]

12. I respectfully disagree.

With the right help and support, I think anybody can be "fixed". It may take time and quite a bit of effort, but I imagine it would be worth it, and encourage more to seek help. I dunno if anybody should be punished for thoughts in their head, regardless of what they are. As long as these thoughts don't lead to action, nobody is harmed. Those who are violent definitely should be in prison, but I have a hard time saying anybody should be dead, no matter what they have done.

[winyanstaz]

19. Coming from a family where as children we were beaten, some of us raped,

starved..etc...by a pedophile who married our mom just to have access to her kids...
..I have to say you are just so terribly wrong.
A pedophile is not just sick..they are willingly evil. they KNOW what they are doing is wrong and harmful and they do NOT care.
It is pure evil and wrong to harm a little kid and or to have sex with a little child..and people that make excuses for them are just as sick.
It harms a child forever.
It destroys their chances to have a normal life..it disrupts their having normal human sexual growth and understanding and ability to trust.
It sometimes tears them up inside and they may never have a child..or be able to have sex again later in life. It effects the families of those that are raped and abused as well as the future generations.
It took over 40 years before my sisters could even talk about things without shaking and crying. 40 years and counting. And their rapist got a few months in prison and a few years on parole. He is over it and probably out doing the same thing again. He never was sorry..never apologized, never stopped molesting kids through two generations that we know of.
As to helping pedophiles...there is not a SINGLE SOLITARY PEDOPHILE that has EVER been made "Well". Not a single one.
They cannot be "cured". They don't really want to be "cured." They like what they do.
They are not just raping a little innocent child..they are attacking and forever harming that child in the depths of their soul.
Given a chance..they will do it again.
They should be put away forever and NEVER be allowed to even have a chance to harm another child ever again.
ONE child is a child too many.

[seabeyond]

21. never was sorry..never apologized, never stopped molesting

there is so much in your post needed to be repeated.

"they are willingly evil. they KNOW what they are doing is wrong and harmful and they do NOT care"

i am sorry for you and yours. i am sorry you all lived this

this is such a good post. it needs to be heard

[winyanstaz]

28. I am so very proud of my sisters who were able to finally stand up to this monster...

and my heart goes out to all the victims of this terrible crime.
To me..crimes like this are the worst of all crimes on the planet. I cannot think of anything more evil or wrong.

[seabeyond]

31. agreed. nt

[tmyers09]

26. I am so very sorry for your pain and trauma.

I like to think that everybody can be inherently good. Maybe my young age makes me too trusting of the world and not cynical towards others. Maybe as the years go on, I will see that everybody is indeed not inherently good.

[winyanstaz]

35. thank you for your caring...

no..not everyone is inherently good..some still have some lessons to learn as to why it is wrong to do the things they do. Some would rape or kill you for a quarter..or just for fun.
People that harm children are not good..they are very bent and spiritually sick and they are a danger..not just to children but to adults because those kids that they harm..grow up to be adults with problems and some become abusers themselves because of the first evil.
It is a vicious circle for many souls and it must be stopped.

[proteus_lives]

47. Post of thread.

You explained it best.

I'm sorry for what happened to you and yours. I'd change it if I could.

It's happened in my family too.

[malaise]

52. Excellent post

That's the truth.

[Le Taz Hot]

53. Those of us who have been their victims

agree with you. My condolences to you and your family. May you all find the peace you deserve.

[Odin2005]

57. +1,000,000,000,000

[cliffordu]

20. Nice try, read some books, stop talking out your ass.

[proteus_lives]

25. "but I have a hard time saying anybody should be dead, no matter what they have done"

Obviously you don't have any real-life experience.

I don't know why you have a soft-spot for kiddie-rapers. But in a gray world, this is one of the few black and white issues.

They cannot be fixed. People have tried and failed. They tried prison, therapy, drugs, surgery and pedos don't change.

They are ALWAYS a danger to our society.

They hurt children. That is all there is to it. They cannot be allowed to. They need to be imprisoned or killed.

[tmyers09]

29. Soft spot? God damn. Anybody who tries to question the normal mentality of our society

is accused of having a soft spot. God forbid anybody tries to challenge mainstream thinking and the seemingly lynch-mob mentality. We are supposed to live in a civilization with a fair system of justice, apparently if there's a crime we find really reprehensible, we can throw all of that into the wind, and anybody who doesn't fall in line with that is seen as advocating whatever behavior it is. I probably will avoid going into these kinds of threads in the future, because it is obvious that it is set in stone.

[seabeyond]

32. you prefer to lecture others for their behavior as you refuse to educate yourself on the subject

really... where do you think the problem is?

[proteus_lives]

40. Mainstream thinking???

We aren't talking about wacky painters or people with OCD. We're talking about people who rape children. There is no reason, there no excuse.

And we are civilized because those monsters aren't burnt at the stake when they're caught. They're put in jail and they get out and do it again.

Accept reality. You're soft-pedaling monsters and many DUers are going to have a problem with that. So maybe you shouldn't post on these threads.

[tekisui]

59. That is a good idea. Defend child-rapists somewhere else.

You will get pounced on if you do it here.

[ecstatic]

39. "Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words...

Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny."

[proteus_lives]

41. Hit the nail on the head.

Bravo.

[seabeyond]

43. i want to keep this. i have lots of people that can use this

good stuff.

[Mixopterus]

55. Ok, there is a problem with that.

We don't punish people for thoughts, unless you are honestly advocating for the adoption of thought crime via this line of reasoning.

The fellow with the Karnov sig was clearly talking about the line between thought and action, stating that one shouldn't be punished for the former while the latter is indeed open to punishment.

[Ian David]

49. I don't think they can be fixed, but I do think they can be re-trained to suppress their urges.

They'll always be pedophiles, but sometimes (not always) they can be taught how not to behave like pedophiles.

Even if they don't have genuine remorse, there's always fear of punishment.

[seabeyond]

51. that isn't the facts or statistically correct, though. they are the one criminal

with highest recurrence rate out of all criminal. and these are people that go thru psychological treatment.

[Ian David]

61. I didn't give any statistics, unless "some" now has a value assigned to it like pi does. n/t

[seabeyond]

63. you are "hoping" for an illusionary retraining. fact... proven out, they cannot be

so even to suggest that ought to be what we do, when reality proves it cannot be done, is a clueless post

[Ian David]

65. You can cure pedophiles by transferring them to another parish, for example.

:sarcasm:

Anyway, I don't understand why you are arguing with me on such a vague statement.

Are you saying that 100% of pedophiles will ALWAYS re-offend eventually?

That there isn't a single pedophile out there who is so afraid of prison that he locks himself in his mom's basement and never comes out?

[seabeyond]

66. hm. nt

[tekisui]

58. It really isn't a point up for disagreement.

Pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated. They have to be monitored and supervised for the rest of their lives.

[redqueen]

68. Pedophiles may not be evil, but pederasts most definitely are.

Pedophiles who refuse to act on those sick thoughts deserve help.

Pederasts should be locked up for life.

[seabeyond]

13. this is at least the second time i have seen you defend fucking the kids....

first time, you said you were misunderstood so we all backed off.

i am thinking your

hit puberty, they are free game is your true belief.

[tmyers09]

14. Who the hell is defending?

Saying someone should try and get rehabilitated to become a functioning member of society is now defending fucking kids?

I guess I should just automatically say screw it, the bastards should die a painful death and burn in hell, that's the more desirable response.

[seabeyond]

15. Who the hell is defending? you

do some research on the percentage of pedophile that are treated adn their reoccurance rate. truly amazing.

[tmyers09]

17. Then maybe the strategy of the therapy needs to be changed up, or maybe

it did work for a little while, but that stigma still followed them around and isolated them from the world. I just think everybody deserves a second chance. It seems that the most acceptable response to something like this is to wish death or some sort of physical harm.

[seabeyond]

18. what are you talking about. pedophiles dont go to prison for life. they are almost always let,

given a second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth chance.

wtf are you talking about

[tmyers09]

23. I'm well aware.

But being let out doesn't always make a lot of difference, no matter what the crime is. You'll have to have some sort of counseling to change the thinking. Our prisons, and population in general tend to only focus on punishment instead of rehabilitation. Lock somebody up and they're no longer a worry. Out of sight, out of mind. Until it's time for release, and more or less they're the same person or relatively close to it as the day they were put in. Of course there are circumstances where the person can completely turn it around, but too often we think just putting somebody in jail solves the problem. This goes for any crime, not just ones involving children.

[seabeyond]

27. they have tried. there is lots of info there. educate yourself. continual defense of pedophile

and then pleading lack of life experience wears thin.

educate yourself on the subject. or just own, you have a greater agenda here.

[tmyers09]

37. Yes, I must have a greater agenda, I must be some child rapist

infiltrating the forums, spreading my message. I will be putting you on ignore, as it is CLEARLY obvious nothing I can say or do will change whatever fucked up notions who have of me. Get over yourself.

[spoony]

16. DU can be very picky about which criminals they want dead.

The more emotional the subject (cats, kids, Republicans) the less rational the response. If you stepped in to say the DC sniper shouldn't have been killed, you'd be applauded. If you stepped in to say a pedophile or animal abuser shouldn't have a hot poker shoved in their rectum you're...well, you were already called a defender of fucking kids so, ya know already.

[seabeyond]

22. what part of his post wasnt defending fucking kids? a mere "fetish".

they cant help themselves

[spoony]

24. All of it.

While he used the wrong term with "fetish" what else was wrong? Do you honestly believe that these are psychologically normal people who choose, for no reason whatever, to have sexual thoughts about children? Does that really make sense? That's what the poster was saying. And nowhere did they say that the ACT of having sex with a child is acceptable in any way shape or form. Your emotional reactions may well have understandable roots for all I know, but that sort of irrational approach to this problem isn't going to solve it.

[seabeyond]

30. when he first came on board said nothing wrong with it. once girl hits puberty, free game

girls can hit puberty at 10. free game.

he then retracts saying, oooops, my bad, lack of life experience. young. dont blame me for saying something stupid

you want to buy it, go for it

i am not

[tmyers09]

34. Oh yeah, I'm sure that nobody has EVER misconstrued anything that YOU have said.

Never has happened to you, no sir. Backtrack and explain, and still have it brought up as if I had never explained, and say that other people are merely "buying it".

[seabeyond]

38. i dont say something as stupid as a kid is free game, ooops, wrong adn then go on pedophile

thread and defend them...

[tmyers09]

42. IT. IS. NOT. WHAT. I. MEANT.

I cannot say this any clearer! It just goes in one ear and out the other!


edited for spelling error

[seabeyond]

44. it actually went in one ear, sat around for a month, until this thread. nt

[tmyers09]

45. But you never really thought my explanation was sincere.

You said it yourself. That others were merely "buying it".

[seabeyond]

46. i took it for what it was. then here you come back. hadnt thought of it for all this time

read this post, on this thread and

ding ding ding

that happens. suck it up. own it.

these are your words.

instead of crying inexperience, maybe you ought to try education.

those that have experienced a pedophile or those of us with kids, and the knowledge of how often pedophiles continue with their crime will not sit back and let posts like yours stand.

[spoony]

36. You asked me about a post in this thread

Acting like I'm supposed to know what people post elsewhere isn't fair. And it isn't relevant to the content of the post I was discussing. But I'm quite done with this, as I don't want to be the next to fall under the "you are defending them and want to molest kids yourself" tarring and feathering.

[Ian David]

50. You mean he edited his post? It doesn't say it was edited. n/t

[redqueen]

69. Jesus.

:(

[tekisui]

60. I am against the death penalty under ALL circumstances.

But, the poster is not informed about the inability to rehabilitate pedophiles. The are psychologically scarred, and unfortunately the damage is irreversible. Most pedophiles are themselves victims of childhood sexual assault. Happening when the brain is developing, it is especially damaging. Pedophiles require supervision and a lifetime of counseling. But it is far more than a fetish or a misunderstanding.

[TicketyBoo]

48. It is not a fetish; it is a predilection.

I don't think it's really something that one chooses, kinda like how one doesn't choose to have a foot/pregnancy/etc. fetish.

Just like you can't change a heterosexual's predilection for being attracted to people of the opposite sex and you can't change a homosexual's predilection for being attracted to people of the same sex (no matter what some crazy churches preach), you cannot change a pedophile's predilection for being attracted to children. That's why they are so dangerous. No amount of therapy is going to change them. No "second chance" (or third or fourth or fifth chance) is going to change them. That's just the way they are.

Pedophiles are very good at "grooming" children (and young teens) to accept their sick attentions. It seems like you are a young person, maybe? This is going way out on a limb, but I sense that you may have been subjected to abuse by a pedophile and are trying to convince yourself that it wasn't abuse, but merely someone who was "in love" with you. If so, you are in need of some counseling, yourself.

I don't think somebody should be punished for feelings.

Nobody is being punished for feelings. If somebody doesn't act upon those feelings, there is no punishment. For one thing, how would society even know what somebody is feeling?

[Odin2005]

7. Oh, YUCK!

SICK BASTARD!

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54. This person obviously bears police investigation.

I suspect such investigation would be shooting fish in a barrel.

But here's the funny thing: in the (unlikely) case they can't pin any actual act, or attempt thereof, on a child by this nut, he's free. He can't be sanctioned by espousing ideas in public, no matter how wacky.

Then again, he MAY be pulling everybody's leg.

[Mixopterus]

56. Yes

Precisely.

[Ian David]

62. I wonder how many children I see on his follower list are actually cops. n/t

[anigbrowl]

70. There are pedophiles who never act on their desires

I do think he's entitled to express himself, as long as he doesn't attempt to meet up with anyone underage in the process.

[Ian David]

67. Chris Hansen is already following him.

http://twitter.com/chrishansen/following