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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 09:39 PM
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So, I just watched "The Torturer" aka Force Drift
Which I first read about on DU

The Film that will put BUSH Behind BARS!!! Playing Berlin House of Representatives - please post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5009344&mesg_id=5009344

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245678/

http://www.thetorturermovie.com/

http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Torturer/70124287?trkid=226870

The movie seems to start off as pro-torture, but then does a really good job of dealing with PTSD. Twists and turns and good acting. Very forceful and and a good watch. I recommend it for those who want The Bush Admin prosecuted for War Crimes.

It was difficult to watch.

Force Drift

http://mgx.com/blogs/2008/02/25/force-drift-the-psychology-of-torture/

When my oldest son, a Marine, left for war and crossed the border from Kuwait into Iraq in March 2003 I started writing my conscience. After two tours that young combat veteran, my first born son, is now permanently disabled suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and his mother is now an ardent peace activist. Today I am active with Veterans for Peace, Military Families Speak Out and on the board of Rural Organizing Project Also,

http://lifeduringwar.blogspot.com/2006/04/force-drift.html

Ordinary life in extraordinary times
4.11.2006
Force drift


Force drift: The observed tendency among interrogators who rely on force to employ techniques of increasing intensity, resulting from the misguided belief that if some force is good then more force is better. Left unchecked, the force applied to an uncooperative prisoner tends to escalate and could reach the level of torture.

That's the view of Alberto J. Moro, who as general counsel of the U.S. Navy wrote a 22-page memorandum documenting his futile effort to warn higher-ups at the Pentagon about potentially criminal abuses of detainees at Guantanamo and other military prisons.

The story is told in Jean Mayer's superb piece "The Memo" published in the February 27, 2006, issue of the New Yorker and now available online. Moro's declassified memo is here (PDF document, 3.3 Megs) and makes compelling reading.

On December 2, 2002, defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld approved a list of interrogation techniques that include the use of stress positions, hooding, isolation, deprivation of light and auditory stimuli, physical contact, waterboarding (simulated drowning), the use of "detainee-individual phobias" such as the fear of dogs, and dressing detainees in female underwear.

Moro warned that the absence of clear boundaries for prohibited treatment was likely to lead to abuse. Authorized methods used excessively or in combination can easily rise to the level of torture. At the very least, they constitute cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment, which are prohibited under the Geneva Conventions and U.S. law. Indeed, there have been numerous documented cases of beatings and at least 98 deaths among detainees.

Rumsfeld did little to curb the potential for abuse, seeming instead to give a green light to interrogators in a handwritten notation on the December 2 memo that said, "I stand for 8-10 hours a day. Why is standing limited to 4 hours?"

Moro argues that Rumsfeld's note could be interpreted "as a coded message, a written wink-and-a-nod to interrogators to the effect that they should not feel bound by the limits set in this memo."

To date, nobody above the lowest front-line personnel has been held accountable for the promulgation and implementation of this policy.


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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 10:20 PM
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1. Anyone else?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 10:42 PM
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2. Haven't seen (or heard of) it, but here's a
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