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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:38 PM
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Sec. Education Duncan, Gingrich and Sharpton on Meet the Press...
Edited on Sun Nov-15-09 12:44 PM by YvonneCa
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:42 PM
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1. Ugh!!!
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:45 PM
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2. Thank you for the transcript.
2 minutes into that video and Gregory's voice was driving me batty.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:49 PM
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3. ...
...:7 Transcripts 'can' be an improvement. ;)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:00 PM
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4. Well, I read it.
I think it sounds like a boondoggle. What does Sec'y Duncan think is going to replace the schools he will refuse to fund? Are we going back to hedge schools like in the olden days?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:12 PM
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5. I'm going to bet they don't address the income disparities in America.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing socio-economic status impacts educational outcomes. Shouldn't we address that if we really want to improve things?
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 08:45 PM
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17. You are correct. Socio-economic status...
...is one of many factors. We should address that, and I think Obama will do better than GWB on that. But this is about scapegoating teachers. That's all they are focused on.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:15 PM
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6. Just more blame the teacher
they played a clip of a rep. from one of the teachers' unions talking about accountability across teh board -- parents, students, teachers, and administrators. Yeah, that went over really well. Teachers are only part of the equation. I loved how Newtie gave the example of a teacher falling asleep in class. Why not examples of the kids sleeping? Or refusing to do their work? Absent parents?

What happened to the Obama that told parents to turn off the TV and video games and monitor their kids' homework?

Many of my students are willfully negligent -- they won't do homework or classwork but do sneak their damn cell phone texting in class, chat with friends, etc. They won't come in for help because it interferes with their social life or job. (Where I teach, jobs provide money for consumption -- Starbucks, fast food, ipods, etc., not income to help the family or savings for college.) Yeah, I could chase them down but when I've done that before it's proven futile. It makes better sense to spend my limited time on the kids who try and care and let the clowns learn the hard way. Progress report grades come out next week. I'm waiting to see how many of the clowns come ask for extra credit to save their sorry asses. I don't play that game. Far better for them to learn a lesson about earning something rather than have it given to them.

It gets frustrating to have to deal with this constantly -- and then to have the three stooges bash teachers some more just pissed me off. This isn't what I voted for. This isn't what I contributed to Obama's campaign for. Oh, and our district saw a 10% decrease in wages this year and more to come next. I honestly don't know what I can cut back on to survive another cut. Gee. They treat us like shit, pay us nothing, and then wonder why they can't keep good teachers? Yeah, and I am a good teacher. One very good pissed off teacher. There are a lot of us.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:18 PM
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7. A Full Frontal Assault On Teachers, Public Schools, Unions And More
Sickening. I'll record and watch the rerun tonight, and I will pick it apart piece by piece. I won't stop there. I'll vote accordingly too. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 06:24 PM
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13. There is some dissent from the NEA...
...over RTTT funds, specifically tying teacher evaluations to student test scores. I hope teachers start to pay attention. Teachers...when united... have more power in this than they may realize.

I'm afraid it may be too late to 'slap wrists' at the polls.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 08:13 PM
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15. It Might Be Too Late, But That Doesn't Mean It Won't Happen
Never give up!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 08:24 PM
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16. Thanks, Dinger. I'm not giving ...
...up. I just think teachers may need to take stronger action, much sooner.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:21 PM
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8. Then They Had A Kid Smear All Teachers As Being Like This:
"Unidentified Boy: You can't just give your students a textbook and say, "Here," and then put your head down on the desk and go to sleep or start typing e-mails. You have to, like, really teach. You, you need special teachers, teachers that want to teach."


Yeah, all teachers do that. :grr:
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:22 PM
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9. Sleeping teachers are the new Cadillac-Driving Welfare Queens.
nt
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 06:25 PM
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14. Yep. n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:27 PM
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10. And This Little Gem (I'm Surprised puke gregory Even Mentioned It
GREGORY: Can you both concede that both political parties have, have stood in the way of reform through disagreement about education policy? I mean, in 1995, Speaker Gingrich, you were an advocate of dismantling the Department of Education. Here you are as a champion for a vision from the Department of Education about school reform.




Well, isn't that special? DISMANTLE PUBLIC EDUCATION :sarcasm:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 02:15 PM
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11. They're doing a great job of ensuring
that I will not be voting to reelect this administration, to say the least.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 02:48 PM
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12. We really don't espouse any Democratic ideals anymore.This is beyond sad.
How anyone can defend Arne baffles me, but then again, I guess there are no longer and Democrats.
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