I have nothing against corporations per se, but when they write debates in Congress, my blood boils

[DFW]

That NYT article sent me ballistic.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/us/politics/15health.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th as published in LBN.

Though I may have nothing against the concept of a corporation, I have absolutely EVERYTHING against their
lobbyists writing the scripts of debates in Congress and getting their advertising propaganda published in
the Congressional Record--by members of BOTH parties. Sorry, but WTF??????????

I also have EVERYTHING against lobbyists being so readily able to get members of Congress and their staffs
to be their parrots. If we wanted Madison Avenue to hold the debate on health care in Congress, we'd have
a House of Lobbyists. We don't. We have a House of Representatives. It's high time they remembered just
who it is they were elected to represent, or else be hanged by their thumbs in front of the Capitol Building
for the public to spit on, in return for their spitting on the public.

Worst of all was the attitude of the Genetech lobbyist: “This happens all the time. There was nothing nefarious about it.”

It happens all the time? There is EVERYTHING nefarious about that.

[Laelth]

1. Hear, hear! n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[EFerrari]

2. It really is C-SPAN Theater.

Very bad form to sneer at the audience over its head.

[tavalon]

3. I have everything against corporations per se

and this just confirms I'm right in not trusting the bastards.

[Echo In Light]

4. Corps have more 'rights' than do the people they're supposedly for

[DFW]

5. Those are just the huge conglomerates with massive financial clout

A mom and pop store that incorporates for sensible business purposes,
and makes $44,500 a year is also a corporation.

Being against all corporations is like saying all Asians are from China.
It doesn't fly that that one size fits all.

[tavalon]

6. That's a good point

I was thinking of the mega corporations when I said that.

[glitch]

7. Or like comparing healthy cells with fully metastasized, body killing invasive cancerous ones.

Although most people don't think of Mom and Pop, or even bigger socially responsible corporations (yes there still are some) when they think of corporations we should have a better term to distinguish the good from the bad.
Cancerations?
The Cancerate Media?

[DFW]

10. How about "Malignant Media?"

Carcinogenic Corporations and Malignant Media, that's alliteration for you.

I know of some guys back home in Dallas who built up a company of their own out of the
ruins of the Reagan recession of 1982. I mentioned this before, but they once had an
employee who got on some religious kick, and his work went to hell. They let him go,
but to protect him from being without health insurance, the co-CEOs kept him on the
payroll at some minimum-type wage for months after he was fired, to give him a chance
to find another job while having his health insurance intact during the search. Their
company is "Inc.," and therefore a corporation. But they run it with regard for the
people who work there, and as environmentally friendly as technology will allow. They
are relatively small, are not publicly traded, and don't lobby anyone for anything, not
in Austin, and certainly not in Washington. A "corporation" is a very generic term, and
applies to many friends as well as foes. That is why I never use the word "corporatist."
It is too vague to use to specify an enemy. The radical right is even worse. "Liberal" is
misused by them to designate anyone who disagrees with them, even though they haven't the
faintest idea what a "liberal" is.

A friend of mine from England was once visiting people in Virginia. When she disagreed with
them on some point, they called her "liberal." Being from England, and knowing the real
meaning of the word, she was mildly surprised, and thanked them for the compliment, which
in turn baffled her hosts, who only knew the Freeper meaning, which is from Bizarro World,
like most of their terminology, and turned it into a pejorative. A corporation is just a
term for a business entity, just like guppies and Great White Sharks are both fish. Like
fish, some corporations are harmless or even benevolent, while some need to bite your legs
off to survive.

[glitch]

11. "Malignant" is certainly more appropriate than "Mainstream"

I don't get how anyone can use the term "mainstream media" with a straight face anymore.

Corporatist is just the less controversial way to say Fascist, which was the 20th century way to say Neo-Feudalist. Whatever you call it, it's a return to the Dark Ages.

[lpbk2713]

8. The megacorps did exactly that for the first eight years of this decade.

That was when all government was owned by the corrupt and evil BushCo Regime
and all the other rethuglican co-conspirators. Old habits must be hard to break.

[Greyhound]

9. K&R.

[bobbolink]

12. Debates, hell.... they write the damned Bills!

And then the Congress rubber-stamps them, and the Pres. uses many fancy pens to sign 'em.

Quite an effective system.