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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:00 PM
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update on sedona sweat lodge deaths (now 3)
someone a couple of days ago was asking about updates in the sedona sweat lodge deaths--and I found this--look at all the related links.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/northernarizona/sedona/story/Man-provides-new-insight-into-deaths-at-Sedona/qOI6hWlK90GNJesdRetRvQ.cspx
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:51 PM
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1. Thank you so much Niyad for the info. At the present time I do not have access to a TV.
There have been several negative responses to the Sedona Sweat Lodge controversy on my Native Unity blog from Native Americans and the No 1 faux pas is that plastic covering is NEVER used to construct a sweat lodge.

When you understand that almost $650,000 was conned out of the participants of this Sedona fiasco, you will understand the man is a major scammer and should be charged with 3 homicides.

I truly hope this comes to pass.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:57 PM
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2. Indeed
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:24 PM
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4. james ray is nothing but a cheap con artist. I wish I had known that, four days
after this murder (because that is truly what it is) he was here in my town, and I had gotten an invitation (should check my email more often, I guess) worrisome to me is the fact that the person who issued the invitation is clearly enthralled with this man, views him in almost a messiah-like way--all I could think was "cult". the lying, cowardly bastard would definitely have heard from me. I saw an interview harry smith did with one of the survivors, and it was heartbreaking. why do I call him a murderer? because, according to this survivor, she and others were telling him that people were in distress, and he would not stop, would not let anyone render assistance, would not let anyone out. whether the law sees him that way or not, I don't know. when I heard that, when I saw the so-called "sweat lodge"--which was low, and made of plastic, and way too small for the number of people, I was horrified. it is one thing for the gullible to be parted from their money, but even the gullible do not deserve to be placed in jeopardy as he did to those people.

however, several of the links on the left side of that article indicate that some sort of charges might be filed--and apparently there are going to be hefty lawsuits as well.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 03:08 PM
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3. Wow, the first related article has a a chilling sentence...
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A woman identified as Barb told the callers that a channeler at the retreat last Friday said the deceased had an out-of-body experience during the sweat lodge ceremony and "were having so much fun that they chose not to come back."

-snip

wtf?
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