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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 01:24 PM
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The Lies They Told (Dick Cheney Lied about 911)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/books/review/Heilbrunn-t.html?_r=2

By JACOB HEILBRUNN
Published: November 12, 2009

When Sept. 11, 2001, dawned, the Northeast Air Defense Sector in Rome, N.Y., went on full alert — to prepare for a training exercise that envisioned a sneak attack by Russian planes flying over the North Pole to bomb the United States, a prospect that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara had dismissed as outdated in 1966. Later that morning, after American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 had hit the World Trade Center and American Airlines Flight 77 the Pentagon, three F-16 fighter jets were scrambled from Langley Air Force Base to form a combat air patrol over Washington. But degraded radio transmission quality meant that the pilots were left clueless about the nature of their mission. On seeing the Pentagon in flames, the lead fighter pilot later explained, “I reverted to the Russian threat. . . . I’m thinking cruise missile threat from the sea. You know, you look down and see the Pentagon burning, and I thought the bastards snuck one by us. . . . You couldn’t see any airplanes, and no one told us anything.”
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 01:49 PM
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1. he was dithering
and that is a horrific vision
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:06 PM
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2. Lies, lies, lies.
Yet both Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Vice President Dick Cheney, Farmer says, provided palpably false versions that touted the military’s readiness to shoot down United 93 before it could hit Washington. Planes were never in place to intercept it. By the time the Northeast Air Defense Sector had been informed of the hijacking, United 93 had already crashed. Farmer scrutinizes F.A.A. and Norad rec­ords to provide irrefragable evidence that a day after a Sept. 17 White House briefing, both agencies suddenly altered their chronologies to produce a coherent timeline and story that “fit together nicely with the account provided publicly by Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz and Vice President Cheney.”
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:40 PM
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3. MIHOP
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 10:56 AM
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4. k&r
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 11:11 AM
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5. Dick Cheney and his Energy Task Force buddies MIHOP. n/t
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:58 PM
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14. Why is the list of attendees of the infamous cheney* Energy Task Force meetings...
...still treated as a state secret? If you don't know who attended, who would you subpoena to give testimony? The number one question: "Was an invasion of Iraq talked about, mentioned, considered or explored during the Energy Task Force meetings?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 02:35 PM
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16. Not just Iraq. Pipelines from Turkmenistan also. And probably
Baluchistan and Gwadar too.

After all, according to Cheney "the American way of life is non-negotiable." Which means they never had any intention of negotiating for energy resources - with anyone.

Before this is all over, there will be two blocs vying for energy resources: BRIC vs. The West. And I don't think we want to mess with the "C" in BRIC.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 11:13 AM
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6. And with all those lies, no one thinks a new investigation is called for!?
Go to the "Dungeon" and mention new investigation and you will be viciously attacked as a "nutcase CT'er".

But it seems to me the reverse is true. At this point, you would have to be a fatuous idiot to believe that the NIST investigation was any less controlled and manipulated than the rest of this sordid mess.

Just who are the obstructionists here anyway? And why?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:16 PM
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8. At this point in time, you have to work damned hard to sell the coincidence theory bullshit.
I have posed the same questions. Why is there a seemingly concerted effort to minimize and marginalize 9/11 investigation and discussion here on DU?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:18 PM
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9. Some think discussion of struts and columns belongs with discussions of little green men on mars. nt
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:21 PM
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11. The first rule of dissemblers is to trivialize and demean any pertinent data.
"Only a complete fool would say the daytime sky is colored blue...dude."
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:12 PM
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7. Open the information floodgates and shine a light on the lies.
Edited on Sun Nov-15-09 12:13 PM by Raster
Little-by-little, the truth is coming out. And not "the truth" the coincidence theorists have been peddling for eight, long, dishonest years. NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING, that the cheney*/bush* cabal said about 9/11, can be taken as fact or accepted without scrutiny. Nothing. The time has come to call into suspect ANY AND ALL investigate efforts and actions --especially the 9/11 Commission report-- that may have been influenced and thus tainted by the cheney*/bush* cabal.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:20 PM
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10. Are some here worried about how DU will be viewed by others?
Since when was that a serious concern.

10 threads about Sarah Palin or Obama bowing is no problem but post a thread calling for more investigations and you are called a nutbag. Go figure.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:28 PM
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12. Cheney+PNAC+Secret Energy Meetings+9/11 Complete Failure of Normal Response=MIHOP
Edited on Sun Nov-15-09 12:29 PM by Flying Dream Blues
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:41 PM
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13. Teh govmunt nevah lies.


Anyone who sez uthehwise is a conspiracy nut or jes' plain PNAC-y.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:15 PM
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15. Prediction.
We will never know anything more of the truth about 9/11 than we know about the assassination of Jack Kennedy.

Any "smoking guns" are long gone. And if anyone who actually "knows" the truth speaks up, he/she will immediately be branded as a nutcase.
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