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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 01:46 PM Original message |
Sen. Kerry: US can't 'walk away' from Afghanistan |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. The main reason we can't just walk away is that private contractors... |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. I hate to say this (AGAIN) by Kerry's words are being spun AGAIN... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I'm not referring to Kerry - just saying why we can't leave.nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Chomsky said of Zinn's 67' book, The Logic of Withdrawal... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Ha! Exactly. Here's a recent look at our contractor situation: |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. I know. Sorry, I meant to post this in a different... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. No problem - this is a thread about Kerry. I SHOULD've been posting about him. nt |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hill headline cherry picks to make it sound like he sides with hawk position - he doesn't. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I don't think the headline has that effect |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. You have more faith in The Hill than I do. I read it the way they intend. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. he certainly does have a nuanced view. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. But one would never KNOW that based on this short 'news' article that doesn't give any ink |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'm glad that you're providing all of that nuance for folks here |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Well....knowing that Kerry prefers terrorism be dealt with as a law enforcement issue |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. blm |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Saw one today in Charlotte. I usually see about 3-4 a week. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. still love ya |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Hey... try menopause AND prednisone at the same time...heheh.... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. YOU POOR THING. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Actually, I'm not having the pred-head problems, at all. The physical side effects are |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. I've seen many of your past posts in support of Kerry |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. If a vote were held, it would be because a Senator |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. it all still amounts to staying past where I think is prudent |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. You mean to prevent AQ from having a safe haven and not furtther destabalizing Pakistan? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. He is definately not for occupation |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. show me where he says we should leave Afghanistan. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Did you hear what Tony Brown said in a recent interview? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. But you have to admit all the pushing is fun to watch. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Heh, yeah... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. fucking great for the folks who are fighting and dying at the point of his decision |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. In Vietnam the soldiers stopped following orders, which did a lot to bring the war to an end. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. what kind of shit is that? Enjoy? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "Whoopee we're all gonna die!" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. 'your effort is wasted' |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Nice edit! |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. too late |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. I hate to say this (AGAIN) by Kerry's words are being spun AGAIN... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. "When will we stop falling for this spin?" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. how do you interpret 'You can't just walk away'? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
69. This is the fallacy of extremes. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Thank you! n/t |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. this post (article) doesn't imply that he's the 'enemy' at all |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
57. That's the problem we had with GWB. Every issue was... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. that's just your interpretation |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. But he HAS made it clear.That's my point. And... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. I agree with you and blm. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. did he not say that? |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Check THESE words... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. they certainly qualify that statement of his. I don't deny that. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. And to think this guy was |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. I thought the headline also was a dishonest read of Kerry's position. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Vietnam is doing just fine without us there. nt |
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jasi2006 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. Oh, yes we can. should have done it sooner in Viet Nam. nt |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. Here is the video from the Imus show on that - Kerry said nothing that he hasn't said before |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yes, it can and it will. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. Pakistan is the new "falling domino". "We have to fight them there, so...." |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. Pakistan is the new "falling domino". "We have to fight them there, so...." |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Senator Kerry is not advocating any such thing |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. True and he has made the case that it is Pakistan's own war against |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Good! Can we then count on him to vote against funding the war? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. He has before |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Just what do you think he's advocating when he says this? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. "what we need to do in Pakistan" |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
75. If you really want to know.... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. Considering that John Kerry was on Nixon's enemies list |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
30. He's right.. we need to RUN away |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. If not now, when? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. When enough bodies come home and we're too broke to buy boot laces for the troops. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Or when the soldiers stop following orders. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. I just saw this on Yahoo news. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
49. "I don't think anybody believes that," Senator Kerry, if you only |
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optimator (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. yeah we are really going to be invaded by Pakistan |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
61. There isn't going to be a military victory in Afghanistan. Every day we lose more and more troops. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. And that's just what Kerry has been saying. People need... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
68. Can't imagine why this guy didn't |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
71. I Was One Of Kerry's Biggest Admirers Since Viet Nam... But Now I'm |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. But ChiciB1... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
72. Considering that Sen. Kerry has about 20 more years experience on matters such as these |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Hi, wisteria... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
77. Right, we should RUN AWAY from Afghanistan. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. You might enjoy this... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Thanks for the link. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-14-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You are very welcome. I'm impressed that you watched it... |
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