A question for those who think an underage girl who sends a nude picture of herself should be

[daedalus_dude]

charged under any sort of criminal law:

I am assuming the cases were girls send such pictures are much more frequent than
the cases were boys send such pictures.

Don't you think bringing them before a court for this displays a somewhat similar mindset
to that of people who want to ban abortion?

Bottom line is: In both cases, the female is somehow being punished for sexual behavior.

[ingac70]

1. Boyfriends are going down for receiving it too...

http://www.bloggernews.net/118097

"A 13-year-old boy was arrested and held in juvenile detention overnight because a female classmate sent him (and other boys) a naked picture of herself. The best line of the story–”So far only the 13-year-old boy has been arrested.”...

Oh, and speaking as a female, I could give a shit care less if some trashy little girl goes down for child porn. I've got a 13 year old nephew, and if he went down because a tramp sent him a nasty pic, I would beat the shit out of her myself.

[hughee99]

21. Anyone have * and Cheney's cell numbers? n/t

[katsy]

26. LOL!

I'm in on this.

[provis99]

2. Isn't it Distribution of Child Porn?

regardless of our feelings on the law, isn't that essentially what she did? How is that any different than if she ran a porn site with her underage self doing pornographic things?

[TheWraith]

3. Isn't smoking a joint a violation of drug law?

In both cases, the "victim" chose to do it themselves.

[ingac70]

7. In most cases....

the pictures get sent to other kids who get in trouble. Not the same.

[TheWraith]

24. The other kids shouldn't get in trouble either. nt

[daedalus_dude]

6. The point is that child porn laws are to protect children.

In such cases, the child is not protected. On the contrary. The law turns into a law telling a female what she can or cannot do with her body.

[ingac70]

10. The problem is she is sending it to other people...

http://www.bloggernews.net/118097

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. ....

that's just amazingly stupid. You realise that, right? A teenager sending a nude photo of him or herself to another teenager is 'distribution of child porn' how, exactly? It's not coerced but voluntary, the images are usually taken by the kids in question with mobile phone cameras. Where is the crime? Where is the harm that requires a teenager to be charged with a felony and branded a sex offender? It's pretty clearly quite different to a commercialised online pornography business (which I seriously doubt a teenager is going to do him- or herself, without the coercion and exploitation that are the very reason the laws on child pornography exist in the first place).

[Toasterlad]

17. Don't Get Them Started.

They'll tell you all about the sick pervets these young girls meet on line who manipulate them into taking naked pictures of themselves, even though they are really, really good girls deep down and would never do anything so sick and depraved if some sick twisted old man didn't make them.

Haven't you heard? Children aren't responsible for one single bit of their own behavior, until they turn eighteen, when they turn overnight into sex offenders if they look at a topless picture of their 17 and a half year old girlfriend.

Every time I see one of these nonsense threads about the poor exploited children, I think of "The Crucible".

[Bluebear]

4. The internets are full of males sending photos of their genitals.

Frankly, if you've seen one...

In any case, I surmise that many incidents of such texting are not "sexual behavior".

[Toasterlad]

18. Indeed. God Bless The Internets.

:hide:

[rucky]

5. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Carrie Prejean is tabloid fodder and nothing more. Of course people are going to say that, as it applies to her.

[dhpgetsit]

8. I guess we have to differentiate

I guess we have to differentiate between adults exploiting minors and distributing child pornography and minors doing something stupid in an attempt to feel grown up and sexy. Realize there will be people in the first category trying to exploit the grey areas between the 2 categories.

[Bunny]

9. I think it's more that they want to treat is as child porn trafficking.

There have been a couple of cases locally where underage girls sent pics on their cell phones to underage boys and the authorities threatened to charge all of them with child porn distribution. That seems extreme to me, but these are the times we live in I guess.

[Spike89]

11. No, no more than statutory rape laws = abortion bans

The laws against child pornography are for the protection of minors. It is obviously a control issue, but as a society we've deemed it important to control the sexual behaviors of minors, both in how adults interact with them sexually, and by placing limits on the danger they can place themselves in.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

13. Comparing This To Abortion Is Ludicrous.

Horribly faulty analogy.

[Zywiec]

14. Since when is a nude picture considered to be pornographic?

:shrug:

[Warpy]

20. No shit, this is ridiculous

Parents are getting busted for photographing their infants and toddlers getting baths.

I'm sick to death of this puritanical country and its stupid view of human sexuality in general and nudity in particular. I'm sick to death of half witted police and prosecutors who are completely unable to consider context.

The girl in the OP was stupid, but stupidity shouldn't be punishable by law, especially underage stupidity.

However, if it were found that an older man had solicited the photos, he should be prosecuted.

[Ozymanithrax]

15. Sending a picture is not sexual behavior, unless you have an ap for that.

What happens in the privacy of their own bedrooms is protected, as long as they and their partners are of legal age. But once those pictures are sent they have lost any protection of privacy.

Unless they somehow profited from the image (selling it as porn) or did so maliciously (tried to seduce a person under the legal age of consent (statutory rape)) I don't think there should be charges. But they should not be protected from their mistaks when the guy they sent it to posted the pictures on every website he could find. And if it should be sent to the wrong phone and fall into the hands of underage children, then they sould be charged.

[Cleita]

16. A naked photo is a crime?

If there was another person who forced the girl to pose naked and then sent the picture, then there is a crime there. It seems to me to be more a lack of parental control of both parties. Yes, just reading some of the replies on this thread it would appear that sexual behavior on the part of the female seems to be more reprehensible than that of the boy.

[Toasterlad]

19. BTW, If This Is About Carrie Prejean, She Was Actually 19 When She Began Being Naked on Camera.

[baldguy]

22. She should be grounded & have her internet access taken away.

It's not an issue for the courts.

[MineralMan]

23. Dagnabbit! Why can't these young whippersnappers

behave like we did, back in the day. If a girl wanted to display her naked self to a boy, she dang well waited until they got in the back seat. This modern technology....nothing good comes of it.

[hughee99]

25. No shit, the "personal touch" is what's missing today with all this technology. n/t

:)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. Teens are interested in SEX!!! Say it ain't so!!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Back when I was kid, a few centuries ago, we never thought about sex. We thought about......well, sometimes.....maybe...a little bit...stamp collecting?...well, not really..the Boy Scout Oath..noooo...OK, we thought about, talked about, and tried to convince girls to...well...you know.

[BoneDaddy]

28. Um in these types of situations

both genders are being punished. Stop with the agenda.

[Bluenorthwest]

29. If this is some defense of Prejean

I think that adults who sign contracts should be held to those contracts. That is ALL there is to the Carrie sex tape story. She was an adult. As an adult she signed a contract under false pretenses. As an adult, that contract was ended. As an adult, she hired a lawyer and sued for 'religious discrimination' and then the second she knew they knew she had entered into her contract under false circumstances, she, as an adult, withdrew her threat of litigation, for 'religious discrimination'.
So your OP does not apply to Carrie Prejean in any way shape or form. And yes, I think adults should be bound by contracts when they sign them.

[TorchTheWitch]

30. it's distribution of child pornography

But I think prosecution should depend on who it was sent to and for what purpose. If a 15 year old girl takes a nude photo of herself and sends it to her 17 year old boyfriend and it goes no further than that then neither should be prosecuted.

If she sends it to her boyfriend with the intent that it is only for him to view and he sends it to everyone he knows and/or posts it on the net then HE should face some sort of child pornography charge but not her.

If the girl takes the photo of herself and puts it on the net herself then I think she should face some sort of child pornography charge.

I also think that there should be a lesser charge for minors that do these stupid things than if they were adults since minors do foolish things without really understanding the possible ramifications of their actions, and child pornography laws are intended to protect children from others not from themselves.

I also think that should that 15 year old voluntarily send a nude photo of herself to an adult without the adult knowing what it was before opening it then that adult who received it shouldn't be charged for possession of child pornography since they had no control over what was sent to them. BUT, if that adult who received it forwards it to anyone else then they should face charges depending on who they forward it on to... for example, say that 15 year old girl took a nude photo of herself and sent it to an adult friend of her older brother and when that adult sees what it is they forward it to her mother to let her mother know what she did then that adult shouldn't be charged.

Naturally, when I say "voluntarily" I mean completely of their own accord without any coercion whatsoever which would include asking for it since merely asking for it can be considered coercion especially to a young person.