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daedalus_dude Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:10 PM
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Folks, the internet is good for three things:
1) Looking at porn.
2) Spreading crackpot conspiracy theories.
3) Anonymously insulting other people.

Let's try to stick with points number 1) and 2) :)
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:11 PM
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1. You forgot UNRECC'ING OPs FOR NO REASON!!!! WHEEEEE NT
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:13 PM
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2. You forgot buying contraband
Such as Cuban Cigars, Cuban Rum, and many other things!!!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:14 PM
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3. What about looking at funny you tubes? Huh? Huh?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:16 PM
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4. 4) video games
5) research for school papers

6) looking up event times and dates

7) DU

8) Buying certain items which may not be for sale in your town

9) checking out different ideas

10) making money, especially if you are willing to be a porn star

11) finding people willing to let you eat them

on and on...
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:18 PM
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5. and...
12 family avoidance.
13 sun tan removal.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:20 PM
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6. who gets to decide which theories are crackpot?
For example, I was called a crackpot for saying the Bush administration knowingly lied us into the Iraq war with faked intel.,

turns out I and others were correct.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:23 PM
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8. It's a crack pot du jour sort of thing.
what's crazy today is the actual truth tomorrow.

That's why I try not to take the insults on the net, thrown my way, to seriously. Especially from repubs.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:30 PM
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11. yeah, that is kinda what I'm saying... nearly all of my crackpot theories come to pass
so the only that changes is access to proof, but the REASONING and LOGIC behind the theories is always sound, because they always eventually get proven.

another example: I called Colin Powell a LIAR when he spoke at the UN, that very day. Now did I do so for crackpot reasons?
NO> I concluded that logically from his data and his statements.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:54 PM
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13. The worst thing about telling the truth when everyone thinks your a crackpot is...
when you are finally proven to be right, no one cares anymore, because the news cycle moves on to the next false story to bury the newly found truth.

Sadly, we live an an age where the truth doesn't matter anymore.

Ratings matter. Truth is dull, lies get viewers.

If faux news and it's like have learned anything, they have learned to pray at the alter of jerry springer and murry povich for they reporting style.

Like I once wrote, "News Media Tabloidization".
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:23 PM
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9. The rule of thumb used is: if the theory suggests that the powerful collude for their own intere$ts
... it must be invalid (note how that's bass-akward from reality)
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:27 PM
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10. LOL true that.
you're right, everyone who labels things as "crackpot conspiracy theories" are PROTECTING the powers that be.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:34 PM
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12. Michael Parenti on CONSPIRACY PHOBIA
"Almost as an article of faith, some individuals believe that conspiracies are either kooky fantasies or unimportant aberrations. To be sure, wacko conspiracy theories do exist. There are people who believe that the United States has been invaded by a secret United Nations army equipped with black helicopters, or that the country is secretly controlled by Jews or gays or feminists or black nationalists or communists or extraterrestrial aliens. But it does not logically follow that all conspiracies are imaginary.

Conspiracy is a legitimate concept in law: the collusion of two or more people pursuing illegal means to effect some illegal or immoral end. People go to jail for committing conspiratorial acts. Conspiracies are a matter of public record, and some are of real political significance. The Watergate break-in was a conspiracy, as was the Watergate cover-up, which led to Nixon’s downfall. Iran-contra was a conspiracy of immense scope, much of it still uncovered. The savings and loan scandal was described by the Justice Department as “a thousand conspiracies of fraud, theft, and bribery,” the greatest financial crime in history.

Conspiracy or Coincidence?

Often the term “conspiracy” is applied dismissively whenever one suggests that people who occupy positions of political and economic power are consciously dedicated to advancing their elite interests.
Even when they openly profess their designs, there are those who deny that intent is involved. In 1994, the officers of the Federal Reserve announced they would pursue monetary policies designed to maintain a high level of unemployment in order to safeguard against “overheating” the economy. Like any creditor class, they preferred a deflationary course. When an acquaintance of mine mentioned this to friends, he was greeted skeptically, “Do you think the Fed bankers are deliberately trying to keep people unemployed?” In fact, not only did he think it, it was announced on the financial pages of the press. Still, his friends assumed he was imagining a conspiracy because he ascribed self-interested collusion to powerful people.

At a World Affairs Council meeting in San Francisco, I remarked to a participant that U.S. leaders were pushing hard for the reinstatement of capitalism in the former communist countries. He said, “Do you really think they carry it to that level of conscious intent?” I pointed out it was not a conjecture on my part. They have repeatedly announced their commitment to seeing that “free-market reforms” are introduced in Eastern Europe. Their economic aid is channeled almost exclusively into the private sector. The same policy holds for the monies intended for other countries. Thus, as of the end of 1995, “more than $4.5 million U.S. aid to Haiti has been put on hold because the Aristide government has failed to make progress on a program to privatize state-owned companies” (New York Times 11/25/95).

Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying: “Do you actually think there’s a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?” For some reason that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers. But where else would people of power get together – on park benches or carousels? Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts, hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot – though they call it “planning” and “strategizing” – and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at public disclosure. No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their hired specialists. To make the world safe for those who own it, politically active elements of the owning class have created a national security state that expends billions of dollars and enlists the efforts of vast numbers of people.

Yet there are individuals who ask with patronising, incredulous smiles, do you really think that the people at the top have secret agendas, are aware of their larger interests, and talk to each other about them? To which I respond, why would they not?
This is not to say that every corporate and political elite is actively dedicated to working for the higher circles of power and property. Nor are they infallible or always correct in their assessments and tactics or always immediately aware of how their interests are being affected by new situations. But they are more attuned and more capable of advancing their vast interests than most other social groups.

The alternative is to believe that the powerful and the privileged are somnambulists, who move about oblivious to questions of power and privilege; that they always tell us the truth and have nothing to hide even when they hide so much; that although most of us ordinary people might consciously try to pursue our own interests, wealthy elites do not; that when those at the top employ force and violence around the world it is only for the laudable reasons they profess; that when they arm, train, and finance covert actions in numerous countries, and then fail to acknowledge their role in such deeds, it is because of oversight or forgetfulness or perhaps modesty; and that it is merely a coincidence how the policies of the national security state so consistently serve the interests of the transnational corporations and the capital-accumulation system throughout the world." ~ Michael Parenti
Mankind is unkind, man.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:08 PM
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16. crackpots are the ones whose conclusions don't fit available evidence
Saying Powell lied at the UN because the 'evidence' he presented doesn't stand up to analysis is reasonable. Suggesting that, say, the iPhone is based on alien technology because it's hard to understand how they cram all that cleverness into such a little package, that's crackpottery.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 03:23 PM
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19. Problem is, some try to equate your latter example's legitimacy with your former's
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:21 PM
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7. Scoring very rare, obscure, difficult-to-track down stoner metal LPs
:evilgrin:

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:02 PM
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14. I second that.
The Internet was the only way I was able to track down my Slash Puppet EP!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 03:24 PM
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20. A few recent lucky scores...
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 03:24 PM by Echo In Light




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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:07 PM
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15. My very first unrec ever.
I would be hopeless without IMDB.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:10 PM
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17. 4) Claiming my inheritance from my late great-uncle who was a Nigerian prince.
Now if only I could come up with that $35,000 finders' fee... :P
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:11 PM
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18. hmm. If someone says something truly ignorant and hateful, is it wrong to call them out on it?
I mean, if we all just coddle the misinformed, where does that get us?

I'm not saying we should all be jerks to each other, but if someone is flat-out wrong about something - and I am not saying this about an opinion, but something factual - is it wrong to let them know? Continuing with this logic, if someone persists in being wrong after others have tries to explain the errors, is it wrong to call that person "an idiot" or similar insult?

Again, not trying to justify any rude behavior, but... let's just say I understand how it happens sometimes.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 07:04 PM
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21. I resent your marginalizing kitty pictures, the Internet's One True Destiny. n/t
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