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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:17 PM
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Catholic Church in Delaware Files for Bankruptcy Protection on Eve of Sexual-Abuse Trial
Catholic Church in Delaware Files for Bankruptcy Protection on Eve of Sexual-Abuse Trial
Published 1, November 12, 2009 Bizarre , Politics , Religion , Society , Torts 24 Comments

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Wilmington appears to have learned a few secular lessons from corporate felons in that state. On the eve of the first trial of dozens of sex-abuse cases with hundreds of millions in potential damages, the diocese filed for bankruptcy to try to make any damages more difficult to collect. The decision by Bishop W. Francis Malooly is being attacked as an effort to reduce potential damages in the various cases moving toward trial.

The diocese is facing the cases due to a two-year moratorium on the statute of limitations passed by the legislature in 2007 — resulting in 142 alleged victims filing lawsuits. The church has now responded by filing for Chapter 11 protection. Bishop W. Francis Malooly called bankruptcy a “painful decision” but insisted that it will not only protect the church but allow payment to victims.

Lawyers for the victims, however, denounced the move as a “fraudulent tactic” designed to hide assets and accountability.

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/12/catholic-church-in-delaware-files-for-bankruptcy-protection-on-eve-of-sexual-abuse-trial/

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/homepage/20091020_Wilmington_diocese_files_for_bankruptcy_on_eve_of_sex-abuse_trials.html

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:23 PM
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1. So much evil parading as .....what the hell do they parade as?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:30 PM
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3. They parade as the true church of Christ........
except when it doesn't suit them. Anger tonight
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:28 PM
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2. The Roman Catholic Church has billions of dollars
they promote it and hide it so let the parent company hold up their end of the deal. The churches send money to the Vatican so I see no reason the money can not come back this way. It only suits Rome to be Christan when they are telling someone how to live their life, but when it comes to lives they are nowhere around.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:47 PM
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8. Roman Catholic Church, INC. n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 03:57 AM
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18. And they receive federal funds, should they be able to hide that money in a bankruptcy?
I don't want my tax dollars financing pedophilia.

And apparently they know how to keep their govt. money separate from other money, even though they don't think the "health" insurance companies can.


Most notably, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and its allies in the House distorted the facts about the health reform proposal by claiming that the proposed system would have used federal dollars to cover abortion care. They’re wrong.

The original House bill included a compromise that required all plans to separate public and private dollars in the new system — ensuring that no tax dollars would ever cover abortion services.

In fact, the bishops should be familiar with this arrangement because it reflects the same principle of separation that guides their financial interaction with the federal government. The bishops have a long history of almost unlimited access to enormous quantities of federal funding. When it comes to funding for Catholic schools and hospitals or programs run by Catholic Charities, they accept federal funding with open arms. The bishops never question their own ability to lawfully manage funds from separate sources to ensure that tax dollars don’t finance religious practices.

Yet they reject the idea that others could do the same. This is the very definition of hypocrisy.

For example, Catholic hospitals depend on federal funding. Indiana has 35 Catholic hospitals and 26 other Catholic health-care facilities. In 2007, 58 percent of patients who visited these facilities were covered by Medicaid or Medicare, a proportion reflected across the country. With well over half of their revenue coming from the government, it is safe to say that Catholic hospitals survive on government funding as well as contributions from private sources.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2009/11/11/bishops-opposition-segregation-funds-height-hypocrisy
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:32 PM
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4. The RCC is a big business, with no oversight.
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 11:32 PM by TexasObserver
Like other globalist interests, it is run at the top for the top.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:47 PM
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10. And tax free! n/t
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:32 PM
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5. Hundreds of millions of dollars? Good lord..
How will the religious institution THAT OWNS A FREAKING CITY every be able to afford something like that?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:44 PM
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6. Oh, no, my friend. The question is "how will the religious institution THAT OWNS
A FREAKING COUNTRY, filled with some of the most precious and valuable treasures of the entire world EVER be able to afford something like that?"
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:45 PM
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7. oh, and let's not forget the massive international property holdings...
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:47 PM
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9. That is like a subsidiary of GM saying it is not part of the GM problems.
Why are they allowed to act like they are not part of the entire Catholic Church?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:58 PM
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11. Because
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 11:59 PM by Angry Dragon
they tell the locals what to do and tell them if you run into problems we do not know you.

They only want to be the universal church when it suits them
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:01 AM
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12. If it was me I would sue the Vatican
because the present Pope was involved with them hiding these crimes
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:29 AM
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16. Oh yes. The present Pope was definitely involved with hiding these crimes AND
moving pedophile priests from parish to parish, KNOWING these priests had already harmed and abused children, AND WOULD DO SO AGAIN.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:39 AM
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17. I get so pissed
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 12:41 AM by Angry Dragon
It is not so much that the abuse happened, these things happen and it is not good. But to cover it up for years, hide the crime, hide the criminals, let them go to a new place so they can hurt more people, and then lie about it and hide it some more.

I wonder how many lives have been ruined, how many ended up killing themselves??

A thought just struck me. How many young boys went on to be pedophiles because the church was so insterested in protecting itself?? Perhaps the government should bill them for it.

When I get going on this I get so angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:03 AM
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13. The church as a whole declared itself morally bankrupt years ago.
I'd even go so far as to say it is intrinsically disordered.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:07 AM
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14. So glad that I left the Church.
No doubt that money and power mean more than people.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:23 AM
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15. I need to rant
I am just really sick of churches that tell everyone how to live, how to have sex, who they can have for friends, sticking their noses into everything in life and then when their people commit crimes they hid them for years.

Everyone in the churches that knew should be prosecuted up to the Pope, accessory after the fact and thrown in jail. All they are interested in is protecting the church and to hell with the people that the church tried to destroy. The only problem with that is that the people are the church. You can have religion without churches and the sooner people see that then the churches lose their power and then maybe they will go back to what they say god told them to do. Preach LOVE.

I am getting to the point were I will work to see all these people rot in hell where they belong. The church preaches beware the devil. Perhaps they might look in the mirror.

I feel better:evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:26 AM
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20. Thank you! I feel better too! Too bad a larger number of people do not realize
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 08:33 AM by RKP5637
churches are about power, money, dominance, obedience, lies, narrow mindedness, pettiness, mind control, bigotry and empire building, mythological beings and fairy tales to keep the masses in line and collection plates full. Just looking at the history of most is reading a horror story... Most are the manifestation of what they preach against. Warped evil minds collected in unison to cast their evilness on others while feeling good about themselves.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:23 PM
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26. Not all churches are bad
There are a lot of churches out there that try. Being run by people they are subject to mistakes. It is the ones that cover up the mistakes to do them again and again are the ones that have no soul. There are some churches out there that talk of the Anti-Christ. It is my belief they talk of the Anti-Christ coming out of Europe.

Just a question: Where is one of the largest churches located?? Think about for awhile and see what you come up with.

You have a good day and may you find others to walk your path with you.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:38 PM
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27. Where is one of the largest churches located?? Think about for awhile and see what you come up with.
Good Point!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:37 AM
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19. Thats low. The church has even more money (and especially real value) than any corporation
and most if not every nations

They've been hoarding the cream of the crop loot for a couple thousand years, crying poverty is a pretty massively huge pile of steaming dogshit a trillion miles high.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:03 AM
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21. GMAFB....
...let Rome wire 'em money... or lira... as the case may be.

Sheesh....:eyes:
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:58 PM
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30. The Lira doesn't exist anymore.
They all use Euros now, even the Vatican.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:07 AM
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22. Fuck the catholic church, fuck the pope and fuck anyone who funds these criminals.
Fuck em all.

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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:31 AM
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23. In other news, the Catholic church blackmails the US Capital n/t
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Trekologer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:35 AM
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24. They are filing for BK before the trial?
Well isn't that special. The trial hasn't even begun and they're saying that it will bankrupt them? Is that an admission of guilt (or more correctly for a civil case, liability)?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:55 AM
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25. I was wondering about that too. Hopefully it'll up the penalties.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 05:06 PM
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34. Indeed.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:27 PM
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33. Of course it's an admission of guilt. Most of these Catholic dioceses KNEW there were
recurring issues with their pedophile priests, and yet the did everything they could to cover up the evidence thereof. As we have discovered, the blame goes as high as Rome, in some cases.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:40 PM
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28. And Yet They'll Still Find Some Money To Donate to Anti-Gay Movements.
The sooner this evil fucking corporation dies off, the better the world will be.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:44 PM
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29. Good thing they have money to "donate" to anti-gay crusades
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:49 PM
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32. That's so true. They can come up with zillions to wage was on and persecute gays. The
catholic church is so damn hypocritical and pious.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:28 PM
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31. Worked for the Portland diocese back in 2003; I'm sure it'll work in Wilmington.
n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 05:12 PM
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35. That church has more money than Made-up God
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