Va. teen suffers rare illness after swine flu shot

[bobburgster]

I thought this was quite interesting. I will be curious as to how much follow-up there is on this story. Guillain-Barre syndrome was also the problem back in 1976. Thank goodness it seems that they have reduced the rate of occurrence this time around.

"No clear link
But Vellozzi said there’s no clear link between the new vaccine and the disease. "



How in gods name they could make this claim, us beyond me



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33845867/ns/health-cold_and_flu/

[rd_kent]

1. Because there isn't a link.

The article states that people get GBS without the vaccine too. AT any rate, 68 serious side effects out of 40 million doses.........yeah, thats a problem...not.....

[still_one]

2. There may be a relationship between any vaccine and GBS, though it is rare

It definitely isn't unique to the H1N1 vaccine. In fact, for those who have any virial illness, there might be a relationship with GBS. It is also relatively rare.

It is a question of risk verses reward. As you stated GBS can occur for other reasons also

[hlthe2b]

4. In the US currently, diarrheal illness from Campylobacter infection

(a food-born bacterial infection) is the most common cause of GBS, though there are several other infectious organisms that can trigger as well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Six cases in how many inoculations?

I'll take my chances, less than getting the H1N1 and actually getting very sick.

Cost benefit, remember how that works?

[CreekDog]

5. sounds like your risk of dying from that flu is greater than risk of GBS w/vaccine

well that settles that! :D

[nemo137]

6. The G-B problem in 1976, assuming all cases in the year were vaccine related

was 1 in 80,000. Or 0.0000125% of people vaccinated. During the 1918 flu pandemic, 10-20% of people infected died, and 500 million were infected. The numbers suggest getting the vaccine.

[kestrel91316]

7. ZOMG, a single case, after how many MILLIONS of doses adminstered???

We have to STOP GIVING THIS HORRIBLY DANGEROUS VACCINE!!!1!!!11!!!

[JonQ]

8. Innoculate enough people

and eventually someone will be diagnosed with a rare disease at some point shortly after the vaccination.

If you have a 1 in a million shot of getting some disease and 500 million people are vaccinated that means that 500 people who were vaccinated will get that disease, of those there is a good shot one will be diagnosed around the same time(like say if they're already in the doctors office for a shot and they happen to mention some weird symptoms they've had, and the doctor does some routine lab work).

Unfortunately to a great many people this extremely weak correlation proves causation.

[bobburgster]

9. Haha, my wife is correct.

She said if you post anything on here that even vaguely questions any vaccines being advertised you will hear all negative comments. So far she's batting 100:)

[chollybocker]

10. Haha, your wife is correct once every ten at bats.

I suspect you're blissfully happy together.

:eyes:

[uppityperson]

11. Does your wife know you are calling her batty here?

[Johonny]

13. well do you have some double secret information

that demonstrates there's a clear link between the two? Posting pointless innuendo on the DU doesn't generally win a lot of converts. I suggest including the words aliens, pot or Dennis Kucinich next time if you're going to provide such little effort into your posts and still want mass agreement.

[JonQ]

15. I could predict that if I were to post something

saying that earth is only 6000 years old some people would disagree with me.

Predicting that people are going to call you out on something you say doesn't mean they are wrong to do so.

[bobburgster]

17. Understandably so...

I guess I could have worded it more ambiguous.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Batting one hundred, eh?

Ho boy.

[Critters2]

12. I've had two parishioners with GBS over my career. So, logically,

having me as your pastor greatly increases your odds of getting it. In fact, considering that I've served small churches, the chances of getting GBS from my preaching are WAY higher than those of getting it from the H1N1 vaccine! :)

[JonQ]

14. Cut it out! Quit giving people GBS

and probably autism and Alzheimer as well.

There, problem solved.

[SoCalDem]

18. It's the old macro v micro again..

Not EVERYONE will have the same reaction to ANYTHING..

I am not allergic to peanuts, nor is anyone else I have ever personally known ..in my whole life, BUT there are "people out there" who are..

vaccines are prepared with the aggregate population in mind, and unfortunately there WILL always be "some people" who have adverse reactions. They often will not know in advance that they will react to it, so it's an unknown personal risk to them. Of course how does one know that the illness/syndrome was not looming already, and the vaccine administration was a coincidental timing event? This is scientific wiggle-room...just as the chemical companies who are killing us all slowly with the toxins they produce, will never individually be assigned guilt, because it's difficult to prove which company's poison, at which particular time, "did the damage"..

Life's a crap-shoot..