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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:02 PM
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Hersh: Obama Finally ‘Taking Control’ on Afghanistan
Source: The Raw Story

In the wake of an AP report on Wednesday that President Barack Obama is not satisfied with any of the options on Afghanistan he has received from his national security team and is demanding revisions, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow turned to veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh for insight.

"It could be huge," Hersh told Maddow, "simply that the president's finally saying, 'I'm taking control.'"

"The one thing that mystified a lot of people," Hersh explained, "was the decision to let General McChrystal write a report. There's no general in history that will come back, given that assignment, and say 'We can't win.'"

"This is basically a war, at best, that's going to be a stalemate,"
continued Hersh. "And so Obama is just putting his foot down, and that's great. ... He's grabbing it and he hasn't been grabbing it until now."

Hersh also commented on a New York Times story which revealed that the US Ambassador to Afghanistan, former Lieutenant General Karl Eikenberry, had cabled Washington last week to express "his reservations about deploying additional troops to the country," thereby putting himself "in stark opposition to the current American and NATO commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, who has asked for 40,000 more troops."

Hersh described Eikenberry's cable as "big news," especially because Eikenberry has been one of a group of generals -- which also includes McChrystal, Petraeus, and Odierno -- who graduated from West Point around 1973-75 and have stuck together over the years as what is seen by other military leaders as a "West Point Mafia."

According to Hersh, this has caused "a lot of trauma within the Army, which is very resentful. ... The top of the Army ... they've been very unhappy with the McChrystal appointment and the way things have been going."

That is why Hersh sees it as significant that Eikenberry is now steering an independent course. "This summer inside the embassy," he told Maddow, "there was a lot of concerns about the stability -- literally the mental stability -- of Karzai. And I think Eikenberry probably knows more than most people."

"Eikenberry is simply, I think, reflecting a huge split," Hersh concluded, "because he's now splitting from the McChrystal counter-insurgency wing that's been dominated by Petraeus."

more: http://rawstory.com/2009/11/hersh-obama-afghanistan/
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:05 PM
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1. Reason for hope...
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:14 PM
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2. McCrystal committed a no-no with his report.
I think he was pushed by Republicans who still want to undermine Obama.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:17 PM
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3. Yep
It's great news.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:19 PM
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4. You are going to be disappointed.
More troops will be going in. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:28 PM
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6. Youll be happy
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:36 PM
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7. I'll be happy whatever he decides.
;-)
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:46 PM
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8. Are you fuckn kidding me?
Why don't you just change your name to "Barack Obama" being that you have no mind of your own?
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:50 PM
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9. LOL!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:01 AM
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13. Yes you will..
... because you are a tard.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 04:23 PM
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5. Maybe Obama is finally realizing that this is not a "necessary" war but a lost one.
And, being remembered as the second coming of LBJ is not such a hot idea.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 05:06 PM
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10. When Sy Hersh speaks, I listen
He ranted for 2 years about how intent the bush/cheney bunch was on bombing Iran - the nukes the Iranians were almost ready to shoot off according to the Chicken Hawks. We hear now that this was most likely on bush's agenda and that made me wonder if Hersh talking it up on tv and in articles didn't keep them from doing just that. You know the routine, fake bomb attack from Iran to Iraq, then the U.S. going full bore into Iran.

We can only hope Obama decides we have too many troops there already. Sy has a recent article on Afghanistan and Pakistan. Informative but truly unsettling.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 05:49 PM
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11. Makes sense.
Hersh usually does.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:57 AM
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12. Video and transcript
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:09 AM
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14. Not with the military, he's not.
We can applaud his not yet having ordered escalation, I suppose. We simply won't be able to "take control" of a nation we don't live in.

The best we can do is to take control of our participation, and that's going to mean drawing down.
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