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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:19 PM
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So.....the pukes are talking about term limits again - (DeMint) - how
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 10:25 PM by Thickasabrick
does everyone feel about term limits? They are suggesting 12.

I'm leaning toward limits, personally.

Here's the article:

GOP senators push for term limits

Washington (CNN) -- A handful of Republican senators have proposed a constitutional amendment to limit how long a person may serve in Congress.

Currently, there are no term limits for federal lawmakers, but Sen. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, and several of his colleagues are advocating that service in the Senate be limited to 12 years, while lawmakers would only be allowed to serve six years in the House.

"Americans know real change in Washington will never happen until we end the era of permanent politicians," DeMint said in a statement released by his office. "As long as members have the chance to spend their lives in Washington, their interests will always skew toward spending taxpayer dollars to buyoff special interests, covering over corruption in the bureaucracy, fundraising, relationship building among lobbyists, and trading favors for pork -- in short, amassing their own power."

Two-thirds of the House and Senate would need to approve the amendment -- a stumbling block that short-circuited the idea 14 years ago. The new proposal echoes the Citizen Legislature Act, part of the original Contract with America proposed by Republicans before they won control of Congress in 1994.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/11/congress.term.limits/index.html

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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:21 PM
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1. Where?
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:25 PM
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3. Thanks, I just updated the original with the post. How do you feel
about term limits?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:22 PM
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2. i feel about them as I've always felt: no thanks
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:27 PM
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4. I fully support term limits...
It's the best tool available to us to stamp out widespread corruption within our government "officials".

Always remember: If you want to change Congress, you *have* to change Congressmen...

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:33 PM
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5. I'm starting to think that way too. It's almost like we need to roto
root the whole place and start from scratch.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 12:25 AM
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6. I think prison terms would be a better way to handle the corruption.
For both the briber and the bribee.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 12:52 AM
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7. Prison is not a deterrent, it is a punishment....
If prison was a deterrent to crime, our prisons wouldn't be overcrowded today. Sure, it may stop *some* people, but those are a slight minority. Having lived a lifestyle "on the other side of the law" for many years, the thought of going to prison never stopped me or even slowed me down. It was more like a game: I had my job to do, the cops had their job to do. I always feel like I won the game... I never got caught and I got out of the lifestyle & turned my life around. Many of my friends weren't so lucky, most of them are either dead or in prison...

Many states have term limits for State Reps & Senators, and for Governors. We have term limits for our President. Why can't we have term limits for our US Reps & Senators? :shrug:


Peace,

Ghost

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cark Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 08:30 AM
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9. Term Limits are Unconstitution
State imposed term limits on federal representitives were ruled unconstitutional by a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling in 1995. I personally agree with the 4 disenters.

Justice Clarence Thomas, in dissent, countered that the Constitution's authority depends on "the consent of the people of each individual State, not the consent of the undifferentiated people of the Nation as a whole," and argued that on the question of whether the qualifications clause is exclusive, "The Constitution is simply silent...And where the Constitution is silent, it raises no bar to action by the States or the people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Term_Limits,_Inc._v._Thornton

This doesn't rule out the possiblity of congress passing a law self-imposing term limits. The only other way is through the amendment process and I'm not sure that can be accomplished ever again.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 12:02 PM
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13. But if they are in prison, they cannot be "Representing" us in Congress.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 08:36 AM
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12. yeah, it's working out really well
for us here in california :eyes:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 07:06 AM
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8. so ... will the Repugs installed who run on only serving "two terms"
do like they did then ... say "never mind", when it came time for them to step down?
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 08:32 AM
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10. Don't care. TERM LIMITS for ALL.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 08:35 AM
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11. Good Luck On Getting That Into Reality...
I doubt there are 50 Senators yet 67 who would sign onto this ammendment and then the SCOTUS would all but shoot it down. And so be it.

I think DeMint should lead by example...term limit himself right now. What's that? He's running for re-election. Ahhh...gotcha.

The best way to "term limit" a candidate is work to get them defeated...it's the local voters who should determine this. Of course the rushpublicans would love to see a big turn-over...you sure didn't hear boo about term limits when they had control of the House and Senate. Again, GOOP hypocrisy on display...this is getting so tedius.
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