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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:04 PM
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Simple version: Obama is looking for an endgame.
Yeah, it's a chess analogy. And as before, it's accurate. Obama is looking for an endgame, a way to fix the problem and get out.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:11 PM
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1. It sure looks that way, doesn't it?
K&R

:wow:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:13 PM
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2. This is good news! The country can't continue to dump
money in wars for other countries freedoms when we can't even protect our own citizens freedoms from internal attacks.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:05 PM
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3. Good news indeed. nt
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:08 PM
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4. Except it's a game without a clear end.
The so-called war on terrorism does not have a defined end.

What he's looking for is plausible political cover to get out.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:08 PM
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5. Good for him.
Staying in Afghanistan indefinitely is just a waste of our time and resources.

Glad he didn't take a few more years to figure that out.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:10 PM
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6. There's no evidence for that
What would you say is "the problem?"
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:13 PM
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7. You don't look for an endgame when the opponent has seized the initiative
other than to offer a draw and hope he accepts.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:44 PM
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8. I am tired of seeing all the pawns sacrificed for this chess game.
If this is a game then it is a very deadly game and it is not the type of game I want my President playing.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:40 PM
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9. The game began 8 years ago.
:shrug:
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 12:05 AM
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11. I opposed the war then and I still oppose it now.
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 12:07 AM by Bjorn Against
I have never considered war to be a game though, and quite personally I find people who do think of violence that results in thousands of dead bodies as a game to be morally reprehensible.

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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 12:21 PM
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12. Good for you !
Now, check this out :

Did just like you and protested after I got home, and to this day remain highly critical of the people and policies that got me/us there in the first place.
That's why I do everything I can to advocate for withdrawal from Iraq & Afghanistan. I can't rewrite history, so I try hard to keep others from repeating it.

Give yourself a break. Find a way to use your first hand knowledge of war to advocate peace.

Be well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6995550

Word "games" can be fun, but I suggest you know who you're playing them with first. :evilfrown:
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 10:48 PM
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13. I was just out protesting the war tonight actually
I am involved with two weekly peace vigils and am in many other demonstrations as well, in fact in the past year alone I have been in nearly one hundred protests and that is no exaggeration. Believe me, I spend far more time working to end this war in the streets than I do on DU and if you look at all the posts in my journal about the activism I have been involved in you will see that.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:55 PM
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10. Just who is he playing this magical chess game with?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 10:59 PM
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15. Jesus
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:03 PM
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16. Game with?
How about the MIC - Military Industrial Complex. The money being made by
the profiteers of war, as Gen. Smedley Butler wrote about many years ago,
is flowing into their bank accounts as we speak.

They are nasty killers who want to keep the war going and their profits coming in.

Obama seems to be facing them down. I wish him well.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 10:57 PM
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14. GOOD!!!
I think Obama finally gets it - we can't just stay in Afghanistan without any coherent objectives or plans on leaving, and we can't afford to remain there forever. Hence the demand for a timetable, an exit strategy.

He's looking for a way out. Also good is that he's making it clear he won't take bullshit from generals and other Pentagon types that want to play politics.
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