Clyburn thinks Stupak clause will be removed from healthcare bill

[kpete]

Source: The Hill


Clyburn thinks Stupak clause will be removed from healthcare bill
By Michael O'Brien - 11/10/09 01:25 PM ET

The healthcare reform bill approved by the House will likely see its abortion amendment stripped, the House's third-ranking Democrat said Tuesday.

House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said he believes that the amendment restricting federal funding for abortion will eventually be removed during conference with the Senate's bill.

"I think that's what's gonna happen," Clyburn said during an appearance on MSNBC when asked if Rep. Bart Stupak's (D-Mich.) amendment would be removed.

Clyburn said that many other House Democrats supported the having a vote on the amendment in the House, with the expectation that it would eventually be removed.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/67181-clyburn-believes-abortion-amendment-will-be-removed

[Soylent Brice]

1. K&R

[tekisui]

2. Good. knr!~

[tomm2thumbs]

3. kick

this may have been written off by some as posturing for vulnerable dems to have a 'vote' under their belt to point at - and it also gave dems an excuse to point at the Republicans and say 'your caucus voted affirmative in great numbers on occasion during the process, or whatever sneaky way they want to phrase it.

Whatever happens, I can't see it surviving. Not with a majority in both houses and the White House all held by Democrats.

[CTyankee]

4. I love the comments in the piece on what Clyburn said.

Now it looks like the vote on this amendment smoked out the Dems who would oppose the bill and they came up short. If true, it was clever.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. Clyburn gets an awful lot of money from the health care industrial complex. He will make

a bundle off this bill.

http://www.opensecrets.org/

[aquart]

6. Removal is no longer sufficient.

I want a challenge on every ass who voted for it. And thorough investigations of their links to the extreme christianist right.

[kpete]

7. Clyburn: Stupak Amendment Won 10 Votes

Clyburn: Stupak Amendment Won 10 Votes
Brian Beutler | November 11, 2009, 10:15AM

On Monday, I noted that 40 Democrats had voted for the Stupak amendment--which would prohibit low- and middle-class women from buying health insurance policies that cover abortion--and then voted for final passage of the health care bill. That's a large number, but a key question remained unanswered: How many of those 40 would have voted against the final bill if the Stupak amendment had failed, or not been given a vote?

Well, House Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) has some answers.

"It was not 40 votes that we were trying to get with this amendment it was 10 votes. And that's the fact," Clyburn said on MSNBC. "This language took us across the threshold of 218, but it was 10 people. It wasn't 40 people as has been reported."

Clyburn said that, without Stupak, there would have only been around 212 votes for the final bill, suggesting that, if the Stupak amendment is stripped in conference, House leaders will only need to convince a handful or two of Democrats to put their pro-life views aside and vote for the final legislation. That's significantly less than the 40-plus progressives who now say they will oppose the bill if the Stupak language stands.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/clyburn-stupak-amendment-gained-us-10-votes.php?ref=fpblg

[customerserviceguy]

9. Maybe that's true, maybe not

but when the House votes again, it will not be on the same bill, with or without the Stupak amendment (or words to its effect). It will be voting on a bill that has come through the conference committee, and will almost certainly have way different provisions inserted by the Senate that might be unpalatable to members of the House that did vote for HCR as it was configured in House bill.

Also, there will be an amendment process in the House, which will then go over to the Senate for quite a bit of back-and-forth on this. Just getting a handful or two of Democratic House members to risk pissing off voters in their district is not going to work here.

[Hawkeye-X]

8. I'd like to see the Stupak clause removed and Stupak stripped from all committee assignments..

and placed into the Committee of "Examples of Stupid Democrats to Primary Out In 2010".

I'll donate to Stupidak's primary, a progressive challenger who doesn't listen to the religious assholes to make law.

Hawkeye-X