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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:43 AM
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Sex offender to become new neighbor
Just found out that a convicted and apparently unreformed sex offender is moving into my community. Topanga is a small mountain town outside of L.A. where children are considered to live in safety and relative outdoor freedom. Seems a shame that it looks like that is going to end.



Nov 10, 2009 8:19 pm US/Pacific
Rapist Called 'Danger To The Community' Released
SANTA ANA (CBS) ―

Officials in Orange County are releasing a convicted rapist and child molester Tuesday evening after a judge rejected the District Attorney's Office's lawsuit designed to keep him in a state mental hospital.

Frederick Davison, 40, will now live with a former girlfriend and her boyfriend in Topanga Canyon.

He will be required to register as a sex offender within five days of release and be listed on the Megan's Law Web site.

The Orange County District Attorney's office still believes Davison poses a danger to the community, spokeswoman Farrah Emani said.

Davison raped a 21-year-old student after meeting her on a sidewalk outside a restaurant in Huntington Beach in 1992.

Eleven months after that, Davison sexually touched a 9-year-old neighbor's girl's buttock and rubbed her bare back. When she left the room, Davison sexually assaulted her 12-year-old sister by taking her hand and rubbing it against his penis which was outside his clothing. He then tried to unbutton her pants, but she got away and the girls later told their mother.

An Orange County jury convicted him of one felony count of forcible rape and he was sentenced to 13 years in state prison for the Huntington Beach rape. Davison then pleaded guilty in Los Angeles County to a felony count of lewd acts on a child. He was sentenced to eight years in state prison to be served concurrent with the Orange County rape sentence.

http://cbs2.com/local/orange.county.rapist.2.1304862.html
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:49 AM
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1. I am of the opinion that...
if these sick fucks are still considered a "danger" to society, they should not be let out of prison. Ever.
Why was he only sentenced to 13 years in prison?

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:55 AM
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3. "Why was he only sentenced to 13 years in prison?"
Good question.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:32 PM
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14. Probably for the same reason
that the guy who sexually abused my daughter and at least five other little girls, including his own daughters, only got four (4!!!!!) months in jail and two years probation.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:43 PM
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17. IMO these kinds of criminals should get 30 years for the first offense.
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 01:43 PM by redqueen
Life for any others.

Just MHO, though.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:20 PM
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27. Surprising. I thought there would be efforts to "understand". Must not be Muslim.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:09 PM
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31. Good god, the sentence of the bastard that raped my friend was similar.
Still pisses me off! :grr:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:39 PM
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15. Because he wasn't caught with drugs and he didn't assault a rich person.
Although I think characterizing 13 (21 years combined) years as a "light" sentence is a little absurd.


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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:53 PM
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24. And current research backs you up.
Among sexual predators of a certain medical diagnosis (sociopathic specrum disorders) such that they cannot empathize, are not able to be rehabilitiated and that efforts to provide therapy in terms of talk therapy or other therapy is actually to make them more likely to re-offend.

It's crappy, but our best option is to warehouse them and keep them off the streets. However, because we have flooded the jails with non-violent offenders such as moderate drug users (rather than offering them threatment which has been proven to be cost effective and therapeutically effective) we no longer have the jail space to keep the worst of the worst off the streets.

As sentancing and parole guidelines are informed by population of prisons (in part) they get a walk.

Ain't our system wonderful?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:51 AM
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2. Complete failure of the criminal justice system - The guy should obviously be in prison
I don't understand why any judge would make his sentences concurrent. It makes no sense at all.
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bob4460 Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:54 PM
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12. they have to make room for the easy to herd drug offenders. n/t
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:59 AM
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4. Wow!
Only 13 years for ruining a young girls life.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:00 PM
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5. He's the one you know about. Do you want a false sense of security?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:15 PM
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9. +1
There's always the chance that there is a child molester in the neighborhood, or in this case, another child molester who hasn't been caught yet.
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:01 PM
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6. You need to move. I'm so sorry. n/t
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:12 PM
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7. Stupid.
And it's not me I'm worried about. It's the children and young women who live here who are at risk.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:13 PM
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8. was chemical castration and mental therapy part of his sentence?
... if so, I wouldn't be too freaked out living near him.

If not, then I'd make sure to appear at his next parole checkup to bring those points up. :shrug:
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:18 PM
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26. As Gomez Addams used to say, "I was a paranoid schizophrenic sadomasicist, but I'm feeling much
better now."
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:25 PM
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10. There are other sex offenders in Topanga (known and unknown) so really


this one guy doesn't matter much. But at least you'll be able to know where this one lives and get a picture of him. I wouldn't go out of my way to say or do anything as sex offenders are some of the whiniest people I know who will cause you legal problems if you go over any line.

Watch your babies like anyone could be a predator because anyone could be.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:29 PM
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11. My son's biological father got 6 years, served 3
There are too many non-violent offenders in prison (drug war). They should release them and keep these sick fuckers locked up.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:12 PM
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13. Prisons should be to separate offenders from society for the protection of society,
but sometimes there are limits as to how long a sex offender's sentence may be. Here in Wisconsin we have civil commitment to a mental facility for those sex offenders who have finished their sentence but are still deemed a threat. They may have been model prisoners because there are no women and children in prison. However the life of a sex offender who has committed crimes against children is particularly unpleasant since their fellow inmates also have children themselves.

There are those who would want to have the death sentence for pedophiles, but that is short sighted. If a pedophile knows they face the death sentence for their crimes they have no reason not to kill their victims (not all murder their victims). The same may well be true for long prison sentences. Here is some information about sex offenders and recidivism from the DOJ(http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/28/recidivism-rates-for-sex-offenders/):


Within 3 years following their 1994 state prison release, 5.3 percent of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime, the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. If all crimes are included, 43 percent of sex offenders were rearrested for various offenses.

- Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders. But sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders


Knowledge is power and knowing the location of a convicted sex offender is important, especially for children (there are usually picture of the sex offender).
On the other hand those who have served their sentences do deserve a chance to become part of society again because some will succeed. These men (nearly always) should not be hounded and harassed until they are certain to re-offend (also not all sex offenders are pedophiles).

I live less than a mile from a place which is a halfway house for sex offenders who live there until they can find a place to live. It is within eye shot of a school which is bizarre. It's like locating a halfway house for recovering alcoholics near a bar--it certainly hurts their chance of success. But people here know the location of the sex offenders.

Most children who are sexually abused are victims of people they know: parents, relatives, friends, neighbors, those in a position of authority or respect much more than the stereotypical stranger in the black sedan and that often creates a false sense of security with people. There is nothing easy about this since we have seen that children will disregard what they have been taught when it comes to strangers and good touch/bad touch. I can remember the famous segment on Oprah set in a park where a mother was telling the interviewer that her child would never go with a stranger and in the background you could see the child, who had been playing on a swing, do exactly that.

But welcome to real life in America, for there is no place so small that it is immune to sex offenses going on (often behind closed doors in the "safe" home) or drugs. It is naive to believe there is anywhere that is absolutely safe. You just do the best you can with what you know.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:40 PM
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16. read about this. Almost posted it. Sorry he's coming to your neighborhood
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:11 PM
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18. Whose neighborhood should he go to?
Here in Florida, we have a bunch of laws which restrict where sex offenders (no distinction for degree) can live. The unintended (perhaps) consequence of these laws is that they concentrate sex offenders, often in the neighborhoods of the most vulnerable people. Who is more at risk: The kids of supermom in the gated minimanse who happens to live within 1000 feet of a school? Or the kids of Tina Trailerpark who works all day at Walmart while the 12 year old takes care of the six year old after school?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:39 PM
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29. It's a dilemma. LA is chock full of them. Not sure where they should go
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:32 PM
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19. There are waaaaay more already there. here's a map:
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 05:33 PM by Are_grits_groceries
http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowMap.asp?frm=0

Enter Topanga Canyon
CA 90290

Move the map around so you can see where more of them live.
Then click on the blank boxes to see their names and details of their crimes.
The boxes with Xs are places like schools and such.


I did this for my neighborhood. I feel safe.:sarcasm:
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:14 PM
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25. Only one that I can see
And he's no longer in the neighborhood.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:42 PM
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20. oh he will be back in the system in no time based on this line
"The District Attorney's Office tried to argue otherwise, saying that he had a preoccupation with sex, was violent toward former girlfriends, stalked a former girlfriend, and lacked the ability to follow rules under parole supervision."

sadly some poor soul is going to suffer to put him back in prison.
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SeekerBlue Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:44 PM
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21. I think "unreformed sex offender" is a bit redundant
Just, from personal experience.

Also, these folks (almost always men) are everywhere. You know others.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:46 PM
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22. Sentences should never be able to be served concurrently.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:47 PM
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23. This thread needs more varkam.
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 05:48 PM by aikoaiko
I hope he comes back. Does anyone know why he had to leave for a while?
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:27 PM
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28. I think these guys should be free to live wherever they want..
But either have a chip implanted in them, or wear an ankle bracelet to track them for a very very long time after they are out 10 - 15 years. IF they can go that long without doing any further harm, perhaps then they just go on the list.

If people have tracking chips in them, it's very difficult for them to commit additional crimes and not be caught. "Oh, you weren't out at 2am at the local elementry school where the 10 year old was found.. funny, the tracking chip says otherwise dumbass".

If you don't want to wear a tracking chip.. then just don't molest and rape people!

Just my $.02

On the other hand.. i have a close relative who was accused of rape by his 12 year old step-daughter (who just happend to really resent her new step-dad who was enforcing rules). He went to jail for 11 years before he was released, and now has to register as a sex offender. He has never waivered from claiming that he was completely innocent (even though it would have gotten him released 5 years earlier).. but she's now claimed that 4 seperate men have raped her (always around the time they're about to dump her).

So, I do see the other side of the coin.. and some people are falsely accused. My relative sadly has to live outside of any city or town with a school (can't be within 2,000 feet).. and is black-listed even though he's been out for 4 years now and has never done anything (because he was innocent to begin with). I wish the former step-daughter could be held accountable.. but our system isn't set up that way.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:09 PM
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32. free to live wherever they want, but you should be free if he approaches your kids to shoot him
on the spot, with say a fixed local ordinance $10 penalty for discharging a firearm as the only penalty.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:07 PM
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30. Why wasn't this fucker locked up for life?
:grr:
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shondradawson Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 12:27 AM
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33. Strange, I find rape and child molestation to be the most incorrigible of crimes
and fully support reform in how these crimes are prosecuted and punished, preferably to the fullest extent of the law...

But Megan's law makes me itch.

It is fundamentally unconstitutional, and I cannot pretend out of a false sense of security that it isn't. Murderers, theives, those dishonorably discharged from the military, HIV carriers (yes, people do sleep with their neighbours), and other crimes and conditions that can be slotted into the "the people's right to know," are not open to the general public to protect themselves against chance or consequence.

I appreciate the sex offender report: I should love a report on the criminal background of all my neighbours, co-workers, new friends and acquaintances, and dates.
But it is none of my business. I have no right to ask.

I don't even believe, outside of certain occupations, a place of business has a right to ask. We take for granted that where you work should have the right to your credit report, residential, medical as well as criminal record going back ten years. So we didn't blink an eye when a law was passed for where you live to have access to a free citizen's criminal record. Or did the latter come before the former....there's a question.

Either way, it's wrong, plain and simple. It hasn't deterred rape and child molestation since its enactment: it has simply made the public paranoid and hysterical, on a witch hunt after who I am loathe to defend, certainly, but it is the principle of the law that concerns me.

Moreover, why should the states see fit to sentence heavier penalties for these crimes, when they can release these men with a register and some public complaint...the weakest form of defense punishment.

But it makes the public feel safer to be made aware, even as the state releases these "repeat offenders," back into our society, our communities...you see how that works? The state doesn't really care what a man does when it comes to sex: hence, Megan's law, "she was raped," "the child was molested," etc. It's never about what he did, only how we feel about it. That's why these crimes are never justly punished...

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 01:30 AM
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34. He should die in prison.
I hope his new neighbors give him a very "friendly" welcome.
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