Fox News is Going Down - MAJOR Bust by Daily Show

[kpete]

Fox News is Going Down - MAJOR Bust by Daily Show
by ericlewis0

Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 10:42:12 PM PST

Just when you thought it couldn't be any more obvious that Fox News is a Dime-Store Propaganda Lie Factory, there's this:

VIDEO:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911100063

In the above clip from tonight's show, Fox News is caught using file footage of the better-attended Sept. 12 Tea-Party rally as if it were from the most recent Michelle Bachmann low-turnout event on the Capitol steps. We owe Jon Stewart and his crew an enormous debt of gratitude for breaking this story.

They used clips from a decade ago to make 9/12 look bigger and then, used 9/12 footage to make this latest charade look bigger. Do you think they are trying to convince people that there are more people opposed to this then there actually are?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/11/803208/-Fox-News-is-Going-DownMAJOR-Bust-by-Daily-Show

[Toots]

1. You are not suggesting Fox News would deliberately LIE are you?

That would certainly be a shocker...

[Capn Sunshine]

86. They have already won the right to do so in court

Referenced here

FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves.

Lying is Fox's Constitutional Right!

[L0oniX]

2. Maybe we should use Woodstock pictures to make it look like everyone wants SPHC.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

84. FOX PROPAGANDA IS A FOREIGN OWNED DESTRUCTIVE FORCE

MULTINATIONAL GARBAGE SERVICE:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Cobalt-60]

90. A hip crowd

[itsrobert]

3. Over react much?

they been doing this for years. Everybody has known this for years.

[Fuzz]

4. I have to agree. No one who loves fox news cares that they do this. They are brain dead and

will make an excuse for this stuff every time.

[lukasahero]

23. And no one who watches Fox will ever watch Stewart

It's not like they're going to show this footage on Fox... :shrug:

[wryter2000]

57. Those folks are hopeless

However, one can hope that as more and more evidence accumulates, the bigger outlets (ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WaPo) might come to realize they shouldn't take Faux and their "news" seriously.

After all, without Faux, the Gore win might not have been invalidated.

[lukasahero]

72. You are right and I was justly chastised for this comment when I came home tonight

to find no less than 3 of my facebook friends have this video posted to their profiles. I know there are people (god, my poor pathetic mother among them) who watch nothing but fox but hopefully, as you say, as more evidence accumulates and as people are exposed to the truth via alternative outlets, the bigger outlets will follow.

(Of course, I've been hoping for that for the last 9 years so it's getting harder and harder to believe... :) )

[wryter2000]

107. I would never have chastized you

:)

I know what you mean about giving up. I'm old enough to remember Watergate, and I kept thinking "Surely this will bring Bush down. Surely, now the hearings will start." I still can't believe it never happened.

[Junkdrawer]

26. Damage control, much?

:shrug:

[live love laugh]

45. Zing! Bingo. nt

[PVnRT]

29. So?

Every story like this helps. Should we just start ignoring all the stupid shit they do?

[FredStembottom]

40. Absolutely!

I don't even have Cable Tee Vee! I don't know these things.
And one individuals personal awareness of it all is not the same as having this stuff d.o.c.u.m.e.n.t.e.d.

[Revlon10]

95. No cable TV, no problem, watch on Hulu.com

I watch the Daily Show on Hulu, and I do not have cable, the best thing is that I watch on my time anytime I want. That show was great.

[unpossibles]

61. "everybody" except for the millions who watch FOX and think it's news.

And some posters here I might add.

[geckosfeet]

77. Point is - (at least parenthetically) - that they claim to be a legit news organization.

This is clearly deception on a grand scale. This is clearly propaganda.

There ought to be a law.

[ClusterFreak]

80. I hear you. Fox isn't going anywhere.

Since Obama got elected they added a third shift at the Lie Factory, and they're crankin' out the widgets like nobody's business.

[peace frog]

94. "Going down", my ass

Fox is here to stay. Get used to it.

[Marr]

108. No kidding. You know how Hannity's viewers will hear that apology?

'So what? We accidentally put the footage from one giant rally in the place of another giant rally. Liberals caught a tiny error and want to use it to discredit us. LET'S TALK ABOUT DAN RATHER, HUH???'.

Hannity fans are indoctrinated. Their whole smug sense of self-righteousness is invested in the crap he reinforces every day. They're hopeless.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. Next time they'll just use footage from the inauguration.

[euphoria12leo]

21. They sure can't use the footage from

President Obama's inauguration because it didn't look like the Fox teabagger crowd. People of all races just does not match the MB crowd. I don't remember Bush's inauguration probably because I didn't watch.

[Laf.La.Dem.]

6. VERY SAD

Sad but very funny:rofl:

[Fuzz]

7. Post this on FR and see how much they care.

[Jackpine Radical]

27. Bet they'd care enough to kill it & tombstone you for it.

One day I got a wild hair and posted something over there. (God knows what I was thinking of!) I lasted 1 post. Well, that's an exaggeration. The post didn't last. They expunged it and me.

[Bjorn Against]

78. I got banned from Free Republic before I was even able to get a single post up

I registered, started typing something up and when I hit the button to post it I got a message that my posting privileged had been revoked.

[UTUSN]

8. K&R #4 n/t

[lpbk2713]

9. You mean the teabagger crowd that had the Faux Snooze cheerleader there?

It was bad enough that one of their own news producers was cheering the crowd of teabaggers on,
now they are using the same scene as stock footage to falsely back up another propaganda event.
Murdoch must be getting desperate with his entire empire crumbling at his feet.

[Walk away]

10. So? Will MSNBC and CNN cover this?

Isn't it about time that these cable shows start to police themselves. They all lose credibility when this kind of garbage happens.

[spanone]

18. no, i'll bet thousands that NO ONE WILL EXPOSE THIS

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

39. msnbc showed a part of it this morning

morning joka i think. no commentary, though.

[blogslut]

56. Hardball is about to cover it right now

:)

[Cirque du So-What]

11. If the teabagger movement is so huge

why do they need to artificially inflate their numbers with doctored videos and outright lies? I hope all this leads to an irreversible schism among conservatives - one that cannot be mended by Election Day. I want a teabagger facing a neocon in every district in the country next year!

[get the red out]

12. They might as well just use "People of Walmart.com"

They might as well just use the People of Walmart web site to represent the tea partiers, I can't tell much difference myself.

[Kansas Wyatt]

13. I still don't understand why the FCC cannot yank their license....

Since they continue to purposely get shit wrong.

[Downtown Hound]

24. Because they are cable news

The FCC only has authority over transmissions that are broadcast over the air.

[Kansas Wyatt]

31. None of it filters down to their broadcasts?

I don't ever watch alleged news from Fox, and that includes local stations.

I hate watching NFL games on Fox, but there is no other choice sometimes.

[Downtown Hound]

32. Define "filters"

Are you asking if Fox News is broadcast over the air at all, or if individual clips of it are by being broadcast through other Fox affiliates that are broadcast over the air?

In the first case, no, Fox News itself isn't broadcast over the air at all, therefore the FCC has no regulatory powers over them. As for the second, I have no idea if individual clips of Fox News material have made it onto local newscasts that are owned by Fox and broadcast over the air. But if they have then you're getting into a whole bunch of legal wrangling about the kinds of agreements that are worked out to allow that broadcast to go forward. Is it a violation of FCC rules? I couldn't say. All I could tell you is that it would take hours of research to find the answer to that, and the final answer could very well be NO and you will have wasted your time.

The area where I have always believed that Fox News is vulnerable to legal action and where I would like to see some activists and some daring lawyers go is that of false advertising. Fox News advertises itself as "Fair and Balanced." Well, I personally feel that it would be quite easy to prove in a court of law that they're not, the incident mentioned in the OP being only one solid example of this amongst a whole shitload of solid examples. So if Fox News really is a Republican propaganda organ, and they advertise themselves as fair and balanced, then they have lied to the American people and are guilty of false advertising.

That is actually a case I think we could win against them.

[Kansas Wyatt]

33. I was taking about clips from their 'Cable News' getting down to local broadcasts.

If that is the case, then the FCC does have authority over them.

Seems kind of hard to imagine that their local stations, do not act as a satellite for their national (cable) news, since other stations get news clips from their broadcasters.

[Downtown Hound]

41. In all of the local Fox newscasts that I've seen

They use their own material with their own reporters. Where they get the feed for their national stories, that's what anybody interested in taking this up would have to look up. And then you'd have to look up whatever legal arrangements were made, and then you'd have to find out if any of it in any way fell under the jurisdiction of the FCC. That's a lot of work. But to anyone wishing to take it on, more power to them.

However, I'm willing to bet you that Fox already has all this shit covered. I'm sure they've already thought of this and have worked it to where the FCC can't do shit to them, at least as far as not adhering to their guidelines goes.

[Tunkamerica]

92. we use normal services including fox and cnn and others

but so do all local news stations. Fox doesn't own local affiliates. They have contracts with stations to air their prime and sports coverage. The only time when fox news is on a local station is during something like the debates or election coverage during prime-time.

That's why occasionally your local fox station will suddenly become a WB affiliate or a MyNetwork TV station or 2 stations will switch their affiliations.

[onenote]

71. the fox broadcast network does not produce any news programming

I don't typically watch our local fox affiliate (which is an O&O) for their 10 o'clock news, but we do tend to have their morning show on while I'm getting ready for work and I don't recall instances in which they've used clips from Fox News.

[Tunkamerica]

93. see my comment slightly lower.

[zogtheobvious]

81. We might win, but....

...all that would happen is that they would get a fine and be ordered to stop claiming to be Fair and Balanced. The phrase would quietly disappear from Fox's lineup under the guise of "makeover" and none of the media outlets would bother reporting the true reason for their makeover.

:banghead:

[Tunkamerica]

91. thank you

no one seems to understand this simple fact

[csziggy]

49. They won a lawsuit - the court said that Faux Noise is allowed to lie

And still call it news. Sorry, I do not have that link at hand, but it's been discussed here on DU a number of times.

[Lorien]

53. Here's a link:

http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html

[csziggy]

60. Thanks for posting that

Usually I would have searched for it, but I had minor oral surgery this morning and am loaded up on extra strength vicodin. So research just isn't on for today. Zoning out is.

[G_j]

14. so?

what else is new?
NOTHING will change.

[tomm2thumbs]

15. it does reinforce the 'Fox is not news' storyline - so more power to them hearing about it

they can pretend to ignore it, but it chips away at the freeper's belief systems just an eentsy-weensy bit each time. It took a slow drip, drip, drip for them to finally turn on Bush, but you can see what happens when they turn.

[Soylent Brice]

16. let's see if any major news networks pick up on this.

if not, then it will be confirmed that truly no one gives a fuck anymore.

K&R

[spanone]

17. faux is going nowhere...even when the white house exposed them the rest of the media pounced

[malaise]

19. that was priceless

They were exposed with the 9/12 bogus footage right here on DU.

[mod mom]

20. Too bad they'll never admit it to their brain dead viewers and those viewers only trust FAUX

[SpiralHawk]

22. Why does Fox-Republicon News HATE the truth?

Answer: They are a Republicon propaganda catapult.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. shouldn't some truth in advertising laws apply here? It isn't like they are not advertising these

rallies.

To then produce false evidence to show the effectiveness of their product seems like it should be illegal to me.

[Javaman]

28. As long as morlock is alive, faux news lives. It's really that simple.

read up on randolph hearst, then get back to me.

[TommyO]

30. It was amazing how quickly those clouds moved in.

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. LOL! It doesn't get better than this.

[Kaleva]

35. The crowd waving 'I like Ike!" signs was the giveaway

[TexasObserver]

36. Fox News should have to answer to the FEC for their nonstop campaign for the GOP.

They don't report news. They make up stories that help the GOP.

[glitch]

63. Billions in indirect campaign contributions.

You'd think they'd be more popular with all the freebees they get. :rofl:

[Johonny]

37. darn I missed it to watch NOVA

looks like I need to fire up the internet(s) and watch it

[moondust]

38. Jon knows fake news when he sees it!

:rofl:

[ohtransplant]

42. They (FOX) proved in court they're not news and don't feel beholden

by facts.

Isn't it amazing our "news media" doesn't investigate? and better yet our "news media" defended FAUX news when they were getting frozen out at the WH

It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

There are people who believe these morans...Sheesh!!!

[librechik]

48. yup--it's on everybody else to realize they are All BS All the Time

and stop pretending they are either fair or balanced.

[Cal Carpenter]

43. How exactly is this gonna bring them down?

Sure, it's contemptible, but so is much of what's on any cable news channel.

:shrug:

[Bobbie Jo]

44. LMAO...K&R

[Cha]

46. Sneaky assholes..I'm glad the Obama Admin confronted

faux on the fake "news" outlet.

[Life Long Dem]

47. It's good for Fox ratings.

[Codeine]

50. Going down? Major bust?

Just more of the same, really. Zero effect.

[Mari333]

51. that was wooonderful

brightened my day considerably.

[HughMoran]

52. I commented in a post earlier how it would be nice if this had any consequences

Sadly, Fox could rape babies on the air and there would be no consequence.


Welcome to the New Third Reich.

[Nothing Without Hope]

54. FOX isn't "going down." It's doing exactly what its backers pay it to do.

Lie.

[GreenTea]

55. Fox can do this made up shit 50 times a day and they don't give a shit if they are caught & neither

do the republicans who watch and continue to give Fox "news" the top ratings consistently on cable...Shit, even liberals on DU watch Fox instead of supporting progressives on MSNBC....

Fox loves the publicity, to them it just increases their ratings....like when Beck lost all those advertisers...Fox didn't give a fuck, as people here on DU predicted, that Beck was "going down"....instead Beck's ratings went up and he's still rolling along...and he'll be there for as long as he wants, laughing & raking in tens of millions of dollars for himself.

Some people just don't get it about Fox news, most do know Fox isn't a news organization, that they are republican propaganda, sponsored & paid for by republican corporate interest, But what they seem to ignore is Fox wouldn't care if they lost money (corporate fascist would absorb the losses just to keep Fox going) as long as they keep that republican propaganda machine going, (but they don't have to because Fox makes money).

And most of the other corporate media, as well as the republican sheep believe every word Fox spews out as they gives Fox the benefit of the doubt as a legitimate news organization and believing that Fox is really news just being attacked by liberal lies.

Fox provides the bullshit and people including millions of progressive watch the car wreck and can't turn away from watching it, it becomes entertainment and brainwashing for the lazy & uninformed.

Fox is NOT "going down" as people have predicted every couple of month's with each new outrageous story, gimmick and lie....Fox will be around for as long as they choose.

Quit watching Fox "news". - One can always get video from a number of sources, Fox' news bullshit each day...Huffington Post, Raw Story. Crooks & Liars, BartCop, & even DU's daily video feeds...no one needs to watch to "see what the enemy is saying" that's complete bullshit....give your time to progressives for will also keep you informed about Fox like Schultz, Olbermann & Maddow on MSNBC....Just click on their head.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

[AllTooEasy]

58. They should use footage from a 1938 Third Reich Rally...

...lots of "good Christian folk" attended that.

[glitch]

64. They do but only for their private parties. Welcome to DU! nt

[SoCalDem]

59. Fox does this stuff all the time.. they don't care one bit if they are "caught"

The "poutrage" should be about the fact the the ONLY coverage this got from the M$M was a laugh & giggle about The Daily Show's "catch".. Where was theM$M? Are they really so stooooopid that no one on their "hugh" staffs noticed?

They are now content to let TDS cover the "dangerous" stuff, and then they roll the clip and guffaw with each other..:puke:

[Raine]

62. They were busted but

I'm sure none of their fans care. :-(

[Uncle Joe]

65. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.:thumbsup:

[burning rain]

66. I saw that--good stuff.

Most likely Fox News will poo poo it if they react at all, saying that of course Hannity isn't hard news--everyone knows he's a Reagan conservative--as though that justifies blatant deception.

[Brigid]

67. BUSTED!!

By a guy who insists he is nothing more than a comedian. What would we do without Jon Stewart? :rofl:

[Autumn]

68. i doubt it will make a blip on any "news"

show anywhere other than TDS.

[ingac70]

69. The assholes who watch it don't care. n/t

[Major Hogwash]

70. This was outstanding.

Stewart nailed them!

[Lautremont]

73. I'm going to have to see what Archbunker Stevens says about this before I can comment.

[DearAbby]

74. stats from the "Idontremember" University............n/t

[Maestro]

75. And people wonder why Obama

doesn't want to deal with them. :eyes:

[lonestarnot]

76. Everyone ran with that ball tonight! Good job Jon!

[defendandprotect]

79. Fantastic . . . thank you JON!!!

[winyanstaz]

82. I will not be throwing a lifeline to Fox.....I hope they do go down...

They are liars. They are fakes. They are not news..they are propaganda and they are hurting America.
Turn them OFF.

[CakeGrrl]

83. It'd be nice, but I doubt they'll be held accountable. n/t

[Turborama]

85. Sean Hannity To Jon Stewart "You Were Right" About Bogus Video

Unsurprisingly, he says it was a "mistake". How can it have been a mistake? It was supposedly 'live' footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0bzYL2kAiU


I saw this live on Faux - they showed that footage at the time of the event as well - and was hoping TDS would pick up on it. Hopefully other networks will pick up it now.

[usregimechange]

87. Now that was both pathetic and funny

[go west young man]

88. Here's the Sept. 12 crowd estimate info from Wikipedia.

Faux was lying then as they are now.

Conservative bloggers, stating estimates reported in the news were liberal media bias, asserted the number was much higher and estimated between 1 and 2 million people had attended the event.<16><32><33> PolitiFact, The Christian Science Monitor, the Los Angeles Times, and other news outlets reported that some of these bloggers, such as Michelle Malkin, had originally distributed photos from a 1997 Promise Keepers march that made the 2009 march look more highly attended.<34><32><35> Adding difficulty to crowd estimation, a section of the National Mall near the Washington Monument was dedicated to the 24th annual National Black Family Reunion on September 12.<25>

Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the organizer of the event, stated on stage that ABC News had reported 1 million to 1.5 million protesters in attendance. ABC News later published an article saying that they were misquoted by Kibbe, and went on to report that 60,000 to 70,000 had attended the event, citing the unofficial D.C. Fire Department number.<18> After comparing photographs of Saturday's protest with previous events, FreedomWorks revised their crowd estimate to be between 600,000 and 800,000.<16><36> Pete Sepp, a spokesman for the National Taxpayers Union, one of the organizations that sponsored the march, said the group estimated the crowd at 75,000 in the morning and from 200,000 and 300,000 as the day went on.<16> Farouk El-Baz, a Boston University research professor and expert on crowd estimation, said his informal research from media coverage indicated 75,000 as the peak attendance.<16>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxpayer_March_on_Washington

[BluDemocratGirl]

89. Not only that Faux News don't tell the truth,,,,

'cause THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

[Joe Chi Minh]

96. Don't you mean, "Fox doo doos"?

[deutsey]

97. That's a great story, but I don't see where it means "Fox News is going down"

unless you mean that as some kind of sexual double entendre.

[liberal N proud]

98. How do you think they became the number one source of propaganda?

[Skidmore]

99. Murdoch's not going to kill FOX from embarrassment as long

as he can use it to try to take out his enemies. It is the playground of a wealthy ideologue.

[workinclasszero]

100. Unfortunately the right wing is not interested in the truth

Any lie or liar that advances their fascist agenda is good by them.

But its yet one more proof to the rest of us that the right wing is anti american horseshit.

[Hubert Flottz]

101. Brother Rupert operates like those people who ran Germany

from 1933 until 1945.

The BIG LIE is alive and well in GOPerland.

[unaffiliated liberal]

102. While they further their Nazi tactics by falsely accusing Democrats of same

This all began, of course (Roger Ailes, etc.), with these same tactics used in the Reagan administration.

During the Reagan administration we knew an elderly woman who escaped Nazi Germany. She insisted that Reagan administration tactics and the tone in the country at the time was exactly like Nazi Germany before her escape. She has since passed away. If she was still with us she would see than now it's only gotten worse.

[Hubert Flottz]

103. It has gotten worse...

History repeats if you let it. This country has it's head up it's ass. Too busy watching American Idol to read a history book. Thinking, "Oh this could never happen to us!" The only good thing the NAZIS did, was to leave the world an example of what not to be...too bad we choose to ignore all the signs that the German people once failed to see in time to prevent a Hitler.

Welcome to DU BTW.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

104. The Daily show are going strength to strength...

Faux may not be going away but the point is they are losing their influence more and more.

[dysfunctional press]

105. yeah- i'm sure that they're just running scared over at faux noise...

:eyes:

get a clue.

or even a doug declue.

[greiner3]

106. The way I see it;

25% of the left know this.

25% of the right do also and couldn't give a crap.

It's the 50% of the main stream Americans that we're after: The ones that need billions of dollars to be convinced to vote 'the correct way' every election cycle that this and every battle is fought. We won this one but already there are new ones that need manned in the trenches.

Thanks Jon!