Bully As Victim Won’t Play Well

[FreeState]

http://www.wattscookinblog.com/2009/11/bully-as-victim-wont-play-well/

Bully As Victim Won’t Play Well

Following the extensive backlash after Proposition 8 in California, the LDS Church, through its Apostle Dallin Oaks, has gone to its roots to gain public support—victimization. It won’t work.
It’s pretty obvious that violence, including vandalism, is not condoned by either side of the gay rights issue, and it is appropriate to single out any such instances and seek appropriate prosecution of violations.

That said, the whining of the LDS Church and its attempt to turn itself into a victim because of some scattered and isolated vandalisms is a rather pathetic scene. It’s like the bully on the block running for cover when some of his victims surprise him by getting up from their beating and fight back.

Our landscape is strewn with the broken lives of thousands of gays humiliated at the hands of the pulpit and its repulsive message that has condoned the real vandalism of homophobia, including Matthew Shephard, Harvey Milk, and our suffering gay children who are bullied and abused physically, mentally, and spiritually in our public schools, who are homeless because of rejection, many of whom are driven to suicides, and some of them occurring on the chapel doorsteps; and still the false prophets disavow their carnage.

Let’s not let the churches change the fundamental nature of this problem. Gays are the victims and churches and their old-age dogmas born in mythology are the perpetrators. Without the all knowing, cocksure self-righteousness of religious people who insist on condemning, berating, marginalizing, ostracizing, and discriminating against gays there would be no problem. Most of the rest of the world has adopted a ‘live and let live’ attitude. Let’s not let a few scattered, isolated instances of resistance create a new victim.

much more at link, well worth the read IMO: http://www.wattscookinblog.com/2009/11/bully-as-victim-wont-play-well/

[Teaser]

1. big ups!

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[XemaSab]

2. Everyone wants to be the victim

Look at Carrie Prejean: She said she was attacked for being a Christian, and that being Christian puts a person in a persecuted minority.

Well, no, you're attacked for being a bigot, and for siding with bullies.

[Catshrink]

4. GMTA

[Catshrink]

3. Thought this was another thread about that bubblehead Prejean

but it's an even bigger bully.

[stray cat]

5. It plays well for some mass murderers

[sam sarrha]

6. if the LDS Church can get themselves off CULT WATCH, i 'might' give a rat's ass what they think

[FreeState]

7. Cult Watch

You mean this one? http://www.cultwatch.com/ ?

I might take Cult Watch seriously if they could spell the name of the Mormon church correctly - after all they are presenting themselves as an expert you would think they know its "Latter-day."

But then again Cult Watch apparently is a group of Born Again Christians trying to "save" people that are not born again (see: http://www.cultwatch.com/doctrinalstatement.html).

That being said, no matter what we think of the LDS Church I think just ignoring them is the wrong approach. There are untold number of youth that are in the organization that are suffering and calling out for help.

[sam sarrha]

8. they aren't the only ones, such as th women buried to the waist and stoned to death by their family

and friends, and the guy gets 10 lashes.. if they quit it can be a death sentence..

religion Sux ..i grew up in a REALLY fundi branch of the Pentecostal Cult, i have no use for it, except as a bad example. i am sure some people have benefited from it.. i would just hate to be them.

[sam sarrha]

9. i'm sure you know what i mean.. it is often a stretch to even call some a Religion