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vicman Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:07 PM
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Carrie Prejean
Well, the video's out and it would be nice if this could be a teachable moment about the boundaries where the truth about human sexuality, ideology and simple decency and tolerance meet. But she's already gone on the wingnut shows and said "do as I say, don't do as I do (worked well for me, but don't you DARE use it for thee)". She's a lovely child, I can't muster the energy to wish upon her the opprobrium she has so richly earned from decent and kind folk everywhere. I just sincerely wish she could learn that maybe she shouldn't use her fifteen minutes to harm other humans she doesn't know, doesn't care about, but who still yet try so hard to live their lives with their heads held up and loving each other without doing her the slightest harm. I hope Richard Scaife spends all the rest his fortune buying up all the available copies of her book...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:09 PM
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1. I think Carrie thought, hey Airhead Sarah got to be a star, why not me? nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:12 PM
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2. Yeah, but Sarah's knockers are real, I think. It's all about the hooters. nt
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vicman Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:14 PM
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4. Bristol and Carrie are both
CHILDREN. We should not forget that. They are being used for horrible treachery by the very adults who have abused them from the days they were born. I hope one day they can find the wisdom to separate themselves from the liars and hypocrites. And then they may finally find their own lives.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:03 PM
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25. A quick search showed Prejean was born in 1987
Not a child at all. Young and inexperienced, being used by the right wing? Probably. But she's no more a child than Monica Lewinsky was at the time of her fling with Clinton.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:56 AM
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35. Children? Carrie is in her twenties!
So, what is the point of your revision? She's an adult. When I was her age, I signed contracts, did big business, had lawyers and reps who worked for me. She, like I was, is a fully autonomous adult.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:12 PM
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3. Supposedly this video was made when she was 17. That should add more to the implosion of the
Christian right fundies that propped her up.

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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:22 PM
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8. Operative word here is "supposedly".
Prove it, wench!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:15 PM
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5. Good post. What's ironic about Prejean is she still just doesn't
get it. It's the same old Republican mantra "but, this is me we're talking about". They say the same thing when they're caught in a lie or taking a handout from the government. Sure gets boring, but they really just don't get it.
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vicman Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:21 PM
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7. Yeah, I know
just sad. So many human lives down the drain......
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:20 PM
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6. A woman makes a video of herself masturbating and sends it to someone.
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 08:20 PM by TexasObserver
This falls into the category of things I simply never care about.

She's a mouthpiece for right wing memes, however, and as such a self appointed icon, she's fair game for her never ending hypocrisy. She's so typical of the Christian who thinks Jesus was about prosperity and status. Let her be pilloried for her hypocrisy and her spreading of propaganda, but this fuss about her mild nudity and self satisfaction is unworthy.
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vicman Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:25 PM
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9. I truly believe
if you told this straight to her face she would have no idea what language you were even using. Such is the poison ideology absent of compassion and acknowledgment of the truth breeds among our populace. Fear and ignorance will bring this once great political experiment to its knees.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:59 PM
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23. The "mild nudity and self-satisfaction"
are part and parcel of her hypocrisy.

Why do you consider graphic display of genitalia "mild nudity?"

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:52 AM
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26. Yes, that's right. Mild nudity.
Why do you consider graphic display of genitalia more than that?

The problem is your overreaction and inability to accept sexuality as part of the human condition.

Your reaction is more troubling than what some young woman did. Lighten up.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 07:56 AM
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29. If naked, fingered genitals are mild nudity, then what pray tell is graphic nudity?
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 07:57 AM by SpiralHawk
Am I missing something? Or is it somehow possible to become even more nude than that? If so, then I have to hand it to the Republicon 'Family Values' cabal for, um, wide-stance inventiveness or whatever.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 08:17 AM
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30. Guess what? Humans play with themselves. I realize this is shocking news.
Get over yourself. Accept that not everyone is shocked at the thought of a human doing what comes naturally.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:56 AM
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32. Not shocking at all to me. But no way is Prejean's display "mild nudity"
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 09:59 AM by SpiralHawk
It's nudity. Plain, simple, unvarnished.

Some people -- at least those who claim to be 'conservative' Republicons -- would call it gross, graphic nudity.

Why are you trying to diminish it with a whimpy republicon wide-stance spin adjective like 'mild'? It's nudity. It's sexual.

And it is in no way consistent with Family Values horseshit that Prejean and the other sanctimoanious (sic) Repulcions love to cluck and to wag their fingers at others about. Why can't you handle that? Get over your self.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:52 AM
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34. Simmer down, now. It's just a normal body event.
I don't have a separate set of rules by which I suddenly start acting like the GOP and feigning outrage over something that is not outrageous.

You should try it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:05 PM
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36. Blatant, lying, twat-fingering hyporcisy is in fact outrageous
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 01:10 PM by SpiralHawk
That's a bald fact -- especially to the Republicons who lionize Prejean as a Model of Conservative Decorum -- and nothing you say to spin it changes the fact.

Deal with it.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:26 PM
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38. The Church Lady called and said she wants her indignation back from you.
Deal with it.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 07:01 AM
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27. I don't ususally agree with you,
but I'm with you 100% on this one.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 08:19 AM
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31. I don't recall agreeing or disagreeing with you ...
... but I'll take your word for it.

common ground is always good
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:46 PM
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10. The video is out, eh? So, now, millions of
adolescent boys and erstwhile grown men will jam the search engines trying to figure out how they can see it. Many will find themselves at sites that will happily download malware to their computers. Others will supply credit card information to identity thieves, in the hopes of seeing Ms. Prejean's nether parts.

Others, perhaps, will succeed in finding this video and will watch it. To what end?

I find all of this very sad. Some moronic, hypocritical beauty pageant contestant made a video of herself? And now, the internet will buzz with people seeking this out. How strange. How sad. How jejune.

Go for it, folks. Let yourselves be sucked into the hype. Enjoy it if you can.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:51 PM
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11. Yeah
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 08:52 PM by blogslut
If she was 17 when this video was made then no legitimate adult entity will touch it. More than likely, you're right. There will be many faux sites made and emails sent, scamming people and infesting their machines with baddies.

Thanks for nothing, Carrie. My business is has enough trouble as it is.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:56 PM
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12. What do you mean the video's out?
Who has seen it?

What does it show?

Link?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:59 PM
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13. I think the OP made an error
From what I've heard, the tape was shopped around but had no takers. TMZ said they were given and apparently, the Miss CA organization had a copy. If she were, indeed, under the age of 18 when that video was made, it will never see the light of day without someone going to jail.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:01 PM
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14. That's what I think too
but so many threads speculating on what is on this unseen video.

:crazy:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:03 PM
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16. And sadly, as noted upthread
Many fake pages and email links to malware and viruses will follow.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:02 PM
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15. But she can't marry herself.
Same marriage, opposite marriage, and self marriqage?

Given her ego, I couldd see her demanding she be able to marry herself.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:11 PM
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17. It is not fair for me to claim that I resent her physical charm because
I suspect it long ago superceded self-realization. I do think that very thought but it is ethically unsound to state it as policy.

Because after all, most of us do not begrudge public figures their celebrity, at least not in and of itself, and in many cases -- say, Elizabeth Taylor or Emmylou Harris or Bonnie Raitt, for examples -- we have seen celebrity directed toward social uplift and political gain on the left side of the spectrum.

Also to say, if we all looked like movie stars we wouldn't need movie stars.

Marilyn Monroe was dazzlingly erotic. I would argue that Norma Jean, years ago, was also dazzlingly erotic, at least as beautiful inside and out, and more real if less famous.

I liked your post and how you worded it in many key places. It opens a very wide landscape to discuss many things that swirl around the famous, the wealthy, the larger-than-life.

Recommended.
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amerstates Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:49 PM
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18. I like her. Prajean is showing herself to be a tough cookie. NT
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:51 PM
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19. Doesn't it bother you that she's a proven liar?
Welcome to DU. :)
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amerstates Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:56 PM
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20. What did she lie about? Got something SOLID as opposed to taken out of context? NT
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:34 PM
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21. She lied on her Miss California contract
There was a no-adult content clause and she violated that clause when she claimed she had not modeled for such material, when she had. She was stripped of her crown for violating her contract when she lied about adult modeling. That is a fact that has been written about in numerous newspapers and reported on numerous television stations.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:40 PM
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22. Bullshit. She showing herself to be a self-righteous, sanctimonious twit.
She's a liar and a hater.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 07:03 AM
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28. Well she lied about
Reason for missin appearences, the sex tape, the nude photos..
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:09 PM
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37. If tough cookie means "smug, stupid, lying, bigoted, hypocritical bimbo"...
you are absolutely correct
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:00 PM
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24. who cares.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:44 AM
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33. At some point she will crash and burn.
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 10:47 AM by Javaman
aside from her boobies and her video, what else really does she have to offer? Her own brand of stupidity? sorry, but her brand of stupidity is currently killing our nation.

There is nothing unique about her. She's just a print out of all the things that are wrong with the republican party.

She lies and gets caught. She flashes her boobs and makes a "personal" video and gets caught. She's a bigot and a probably a racist (but that has yet to come out), she loves to preach but never practices, she loves herself some of that gawk, but let's face it, who on the right wing these days doesn't love them some of that gawd.

If she's going to extend her already over extended 15 minutes of fame, she really is needing to come up with some new material.

As it stands now, I think the most logical choice of career paths for her is the spokes model, plaything of some right wing up and coming jerry farwell type. They all use the arm candy to attract the bizarre closeted creepy right wing stalker types, so why not? And given the fact that that video is still floating out there, they will all squirm in the pews with delight over the prospect of possibly seeing her video.

Then in a few years, several dozen plastic surgeries later, hair teased up to the sky and 3 or 4 tons of bad make up, she will divorce her closeted gay bashing husband and go on tour as a "survivor".

That would be the logical life plan for her. Because frankly, given all that she's given so far, the only other alternative is porn star.
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