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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:54 PM
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Sharlet's Latest: The Democrats' new "Family" values Thanks to C Streeter Bart Stupak and his allies
The Democrats' new "Family" values
Thanks to C Streeter Bart Stupak and his allies, the GOP isn't the only party kowtowing to the Christian right

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/11/10/stupak_pitts/index.html

Joe Pitts can testify to that. It's a safe bet that until Stupak-Pitts, few Americans beyond Pennsylvania Amish country had even heard of the avuncular Republican, a former gym teacher who rarely attaches his name to legislation. And yet he's been a driving force in the antiabortion fight for more than three decades. It was Pitts, a "core" member of the Family, who helped bring antiabortion politics into the organization back in the early 1980s. The Family's focus has always tended toward foreign affairs and economics; Pitts merged the two with the red-hot politics of the abortion wars, quietly exporting free-market fundamentalism and draconian social policy overseas. Pitts and Stupak have joined forces on that front before, teaming up to try to turn President Bush's underfunded but laudable President's Emergency Relief for AIDS initiative into an antiabortion crusade. What they couldn't achieve abroad, they've now brought back home, and then some.

They had plenty of help, starting at the Family's C Street House. It's home not just to Stupak but also to antiabortion Democrats Mike Doyle of Pennsylvania and Heath Shuler of North Carolina, and two of the Senate's fiercest abortion foes, Oklahoma's Tom Coburn -- an obstetrician who once mused on applying the death penalty to abortion providers -- and South Carolina's Jim DeMint, famous for pledging to make healthcare reform Obama's Waterloo. Other Family associates lining up behind Stupak-Pitts include evangelicals Mike McIntyre, D-N.C., John Tanner, D-Tenn., and Lincoln Davis, a Democrat from Tennessee who once proclaimed that no Republican could "outgun, out-pray, or out-family me."

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Which raises the question: Who's pulling whom? Did backbencher Bart Stupak really come up with the bluff that led pro-choice Democrats to abandon not one but two compromises, one of which Stupak himself seemed to be signing off on earlier this summer? Or was it Pitts, an abortion-wars warrior since the 1970s, and a longtime leader of the House Values Action Team -- an off-the-record caucus of religious right organizations and members of Congress -- who drew up the blueprint?

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He may have been right about that. Right now, even the diluted healthcare reform bill that's limping toward more mauling in the Senate looks like the result of a historic vote. But as a weather vane, Stupak-Pitts tells us which way the wind is blowing. Last time the Democrats possessed this much power in Washington, the Dixiecrats tried to hold the party hostage. Now, it's the faith-based Democrats. Dixiecrats were racists, plain and simple; the faith-based Democrats are a more complicated bunch, a mix of genuinely moral conservatives, many of them to the left on economic issues, political cowards, and default Blue Dogs. They're anti-choice and anti-gay but, by God, they're about love, not hate, a gentler fundamentalism, a faith based in the conflation of Christianity and the Constitution, not the substitution of one for the other. So that's progress, right?

"Sure," says the Faith Table dissident who reports that the council of "progressive Christians" was not willing to even consider any deal that didn't leap past the Hyde Amendment into a new country -- or maybe it's old -- of abortion restrictions. "If you're playing horseshoes with James Dobson."
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:03 PM
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1.  I said it before and i will say it again,I would rather lose the majority than have such people in
Congrewss and the senate. They are worse than republicans because they tarnish the democratic party and mock its priciples. But that is pkay with rahm, who just wants a WIN coumn. Nothing else matters, including how they vote.They seem to be encouraged to vote GOP.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:30 PM
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3. I agree with you. With them in the party, or majority is working against us.
Not for us. :grr:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:32 PM
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4. With people like them we only have a majority in the # of people with Ds next to their names
not an real working majority that will work together to get the majority of the Democratic platform enacted. Instead we have wolves in sheep's clothing, DINO's who toss us a bone once in a while to keep us hoping that one day they will stand up for most of the right things not just the occasional one while the Rahm's lecture us about taking one (and another one, and another one, and another one) for the sake of the team and we should be grateful for the back stabbing dino's condescending to lend us occasional hand.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:32 AM
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20. Hey, with 'friends' like that, right?
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:05 PM
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2. Reposting from another thread (Rachel Maddow Video)
The Cult of C Street.

I find it much more frightening that this "Family" is just being a conservative Frat Boy hang-out. The tendency of the men who dwell here to heavily disrespect women (be it backing each other up when at least one cheats repeatedly on his wife or the darker trend towards controling women's reproductive rights)is alarming.

Though we cannot let paranoia fog our intelligence (I'm not sure WHY in this instance, paranoia about this can be pretty pervasive) there appears to be a very ugly and dangerous trend being permitted there.

Opinions all?

peace,
Lilly
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:43 PM
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7. They disrespect everyone but their own kind - the chosen ones, the Haves & Have Mores
Considering the damage their members have caused though the decades maybe a little paranoia is healthy - or at least healthier than mocking dismissal. Cheating on their spouses is the least of their sins when they have helped screw up entire nations.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:43 PM
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8. I think that the "C" st. gang are just plain evil...using religion as a
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 08:45 PM by movonne
way of controlling...they are also making a different way at looking at why being rich and powerful is what Jesus really wanted as the chosen..
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:48 PM
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10. Send all to that nut case's sweat lodge- he fits right in to their "belief" system.
You know the guy who killed those people in New Mexico with his so called
prosperity retreat?

BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:46 PM
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9. Link? Link? I'm DYING to see it!!! Welcome to DU!!!!
Thanks!!!!
BHN
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:00 PM
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13. Here ya go :)
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:11 PM
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14. THANKS!!! Just watched and recommended. Are you familiar with the Yurica Report?
She too, like Sharlet, has been covering the invasion of the "dominionists" in
all things government- GREAT site, enjoy!
http://www.yuricareport.com/index.html
BHN
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:16 PM
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16. Many thanks :)
off to absorb it now!
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 04:33 AM
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18. May I also suggest the writings of 'dogemperor', a survivor of a
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 04:33 AM by juno jones
dominionist cult.

She was writing diaries on DKos for awhile. This is a good introduction:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/7/165650/170

I don't think she's there anymore, but googling her handle brings up articles she's currently writing elsewhere.


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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:49 PM
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25. Great additions...
even scarier.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:55 PM
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17. Talk2Action.org is also excellent - follows the rightwing religious infiltration of government, mili
military, schools. http://www.talk2action.org

Theocracy Watch is a great place to start getting to know the scope of the right wing religious movements http://www.theocracywatch.org/

also Religious Right Watch http://www.religiousrightwatch.com/
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:39 PM
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5. Are these not - the - very - fuckers - who brought us GWB and the Invasion & Occupation of a
sovereign nation known as Iraq? Yes, I know PNAC was the originator, but they had to have needed a political instrument to accomplish their aims, one already up and functioning quite well on anti-Choice animus, thank you, churches that would have become part of an already established power nexus that ran through that house on C Street in D.C.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:42 PM
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6. P.S. THINK of all of the Ds who voted to allow * to CHOOSE to kill INNOCENT Iraqis.
Hilary C knew the C Streeters well AND voted for the IWR.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:05 AM
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23. Stupak voted against the Pre-emptive Resolution. nt.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 07:51 PM
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26. Interesting!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:55 PM
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11. Thanks for posting this Shallah!
People NEED to know!
Notice the curious absence of DU cheerleaders for Stupak on these threads?
Roaches have that curious way of scurrying back into
the wood work when you shine the light on them.

BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:55 PM
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12. Recommended!!!!
bhn
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:13 PM
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15. Infiltrate and subvert
Is what they do.
They are losing there grip on the gop and now they are taking over the Democratic Party.

Meet the new boss-same as the old boss
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:29 AM
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19. I think of them as Cancer, they consumed the Republicans, now they are consuming the Democrats.
They won't stop until either 1. we stop them OR 2. our body politic dies.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:42 AM
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22. That is a good analogy
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:42 AM
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21. For those who have read Sharlett's book
How much am I going to have to drink to get through it without putting my fist through something? A beer a chapter? Two G&Ts per chapter?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 11:17 AM
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24. It will definitely infuriate you but it explains a lot why so many mega churchers
& politicians support the cold blooded republican/corporate agenda. (added corporate because their are members of our own family involved)
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