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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:03 PM
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The simple reason that Hasan isn't a radical Islamic terrorist.
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 05:03 PM by trumad
He's still alive.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:06 PM
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1. His profile matches the "disgruntaled post office employee" to a tee
Except for the postal part...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:07 PM
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2. Yep. You don't have to be an evil super hero to go postal.
It's so sad.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:09 PM
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3. I just worry about the crazies taking this to an illogical conclusion
Did you read Michelle Malkin's POS blog after the event?

Pure Mein Kampf shit, except subsitute 'Islam' for 'Judaism'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:14 PM
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7. You've got a stronger stomach than I do, Taverner. n/t
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:10 PM
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5. lol yes
and of course the other part. that he yelled allahu akbar before murdering the soldiers, and that he passed out korans to his neighbors before the shooting spree, and that...

oh yea. it matches lol

i;m still trying to find a case report of a postal worker who yelled out "jesus is great" before mowing down his coworkers, or who passed out bibles before his shooting spree.



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:16 PM
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9. keep looking, i'm sure a postal employee invoked the lord while going postal
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:19 PM
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12. i;ve invoked the lord
on more than one occasion when the postal service was slow to deliver my order
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:17 PM
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10. So you think there is a link?
The passing out Korans - - the time hasn't justified its inclusion. Many Christians pass out the New Testament to friends. Did it happen weeks or months beforehand or did it happen the day before?

Also ask yourself - if this was planned, why would he limit himself to just a rifle? Why not get a tank and do some serious damage? He was high enough up to commandeer one on the spot - even if he was a Psychiatrist.

I still think he snapped
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:23 PM
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14. some points
1) it happened just before his spree (passing out of koran), in the morning. interviews with neighbors confirm this. there are no reports he did this on prior occasions with his neighbors
2) if you think an army major psychiatrist can just "commandeer" a tank, i suggest you have little understanding of how army bases work. also, ever since that incident in san diego, the army has tightened up access to same.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:28 PM
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16. Interesting
But still, if he wanted to do damage, there is a lot more he could have done...

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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:31 PM
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17. the perfect is the enemy of the good
of course he could have done more

he managed to kill 12 and wound a lot more. on a military base, that's pretty effective.

i'm not exactly sure what your point is. sure he could have done more. so could the columbine killers.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:32 PM
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18. So give me your summation of events...
Do you think he was working with Al Queda?

Do you think the killing spree was planned?

Do you think he was a lone wolf, or were there more involved?
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:36 PM
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20. my summary
1) i have no idea. thus, i have no opinion
2) i think it was most likely that it was planned, based on his purchase of the rifle, the passing out of korans, and the cleaning out of his apartment, as if he was preparing to do something
3) i have no idea or opinion as to whether he was a lone wolf or not.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:24 PM
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15. some points
1) it happened just before his spree (passing out of koran), in the morning. interviews with neighbors confirm this. there are no reports he did this on prior occasions with his neighbors. there are also reports that he started wearing the "traditional muslim garb" a couple of weeks before the shooting
2) if you think an army major psychiatrist can just "commandeer" a tank, i suggest you have little understanding of how army bases work. also, ever since that incident in san diego, the army has tightened up access to same.

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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:37 PM
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21. Jim Jones? n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:10 PM
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4. by next week the media will be reporting he was a pilot on 9/11
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:11 PM
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6. He survived 9/11, also!
:wow:

Now you are going to get this thread dumped into the 9/11 forum!!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:14 PM
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8. yikes! unintentional consequences....
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:18 PM
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11. He tried to kill a few extra people and lost the chance to kill himself
so he is an incompetent terrorist maybe?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:20 PM
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13. perhaps...
But a true terrorist would have died for the virgins awaiting him.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:33 PM
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19. I disagree. Mass shootings are always suicide missions.
He just got lucky.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:39 PM
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22. I do think he wanted to die
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:43 PM
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23. As are many terrorists in many jails
around the world.

massive fail
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:46 PM
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24. He is a very lonely guy who snapped. Aren't most of the workplace/
public shooters single?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:46 PM
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25. So is Bin Laden.
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