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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:00 PM
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Today was the memorial for the victims at Ft. Hood. Keeping that in mind,
is it just me or does anyone one else wonder how our soldiers can rely on their mental health care -- what there is of it which is damn little -- in their service when no one is monitoring their therapists?

And if I'm wrong, I hope someone corrects me but don't most active therapists get themselves checked out or are required by their employers to get mental health check ups regularly?

A lot of DUers seem very upset about this one guy. I guess because of my own background, I'm more upset about what this terrible event means for all the soldiers who want or need mental health care or who will. Who is looking out for them right now? This one person is in custody. But what about the so called military mental health system? :shrug:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:08 PM
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1. No doubt the military has instructed them the objective is to get them focused again
so they can redeploy them.

I'll betcha the goals of that kind of therapy for soldiers are entirely different than they are for civilians!

No proof for this, perhaps, wouldn't know, but I'll bet their designs on these guys don't really put the best intersts of the soldiers first.

Who can forget the doctors who have been used to monitor torture targets, to restore them to consciousness, and stability long enough, in order to continue to torture them, anyway? Good grief!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:10 PM
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3. I hadn't thought of that but of course, you're right.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:09 PM
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2. I'm with you.... and imagine the added stress when many so-called "Christian" soldiers are also
influenced by the leaders who claim we're in a war with Islam. Geez....Hasan and other counselors must have heard that every day for the last 8 years.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:12 PM
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4. If nobody bothered to check on Hasan
that pretty much makes a mockery of the whole mental health project in the military, doesn't it?

Where were these geniuses when he started giving off behavioral predictors? :shrug:
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thegoodfight Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:19 PM
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5. where are the memorials
Where are the memorials for the thousands of innocent civilians murdered in these 2 unjust wars. Where is the counselling that they so desperately need. Nobody seems to give a damn about them, its always about 'our' troops, fighting 'our' unjust war. They had a choice, they chose to engage in an unjust war, not my problem and they're not going to get my sympathy vote, call me heartless, but I've seen what some of these so-called soldiers have been doing in Iraq and its quite frankly disgusting, they have 0 respect from me. I wonder why Hassan didn't kill himself, I'm sure he knew the media would have a field-day and reignite the extreme anti-Muslim sentiment already in your country, they'd find it as another excuse and reason to justify these two unjust wars and set the American people into super-patriotic mode like they were during Bush's reign. This all just makes me sick.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:20 PM
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6. Yes, it is all sickening.
I agree with that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:40 PM
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7. Thanks for the recs. I was always blown away because Doug wasn't diagnosed
until after we got married -- he was 36.

In his case, his onset was after we lost touch at about 20. That still means that sometime between 20 and 37, things changed for him and nobody noticed. His mom and dad, his roommates, his girlfriend of 8 years, the comedians he hung with, the bookers, agents, whoever that dealt with him pretty closely.

But what I'm thinking today is, none of those people where PSYCHIATRISTS or OFFICERS charged with national security. It's one thing for no one in a small town like San Francisco to notice a stand up isn't doing well. It's another level of :wtf: for a mental health unit not to notice a military psychiatrist is not in charge of himself. Put another way, the officers and shrinks at Ft. Hood didn't do any better at noticing severe mental illness than a bunch of comedians in San Francisco.

In fact, they did worse than our comedians who always looked out for Doug even if they weren't clear about why they were doing that. Maybe we should recruit Will Durst and Mike Pritchard and Dan St. Paul to straighten out Ft. Hood. God knows, they're smarter, funnier and have more heart.

:shrug:

Saying this guy was just a terrorist sleeper is really just saying, nobody's paying attention and no one cares.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:21 PM
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8. Kick
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