Why does Dylan Ratigan keep lumping unions in with insurance companies when he talks about HCR?

[NNN0LHI]

I don't see the connection. The union I belong to and all the others I know of were for Single Payer. What part of that doesn't Ratigan get? Is he just stupid? Or is he purposely pulling an anti-union bait and switch? Anyone else notice he does this a lot?

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[sandnsea]

1. Dylan Ratigan = Lou Dobbs

Mark my words. That guy will expose himself sooner or later.

[JDPriestly]

6. Sandnsea, you are probably right. I like Ratigan's exposes on the economy,

but I hear a not-so-subtle libertarian, pro-greed stance every once in a while. He doesn't like being cheated, and I am grateful to him for cutting through the fog of Wall Street's maneuvers and explaining events clearly. But, he seems hesitant to discuss the social repercussions of the cheating and tricks he so effectively exposes. And, his ideas about change seem limited to the marketplace of the rich. He doesn't seem that concerned about the lives of ordinary people. Maybe I don't watch him enough, but does he talk about the underlying jobs problems, the unfairness of our trade agreements?

In my view, he has understanding of what has gone wrong on Wall Street but no clue as to how to change things because he seems to lack moral direction when it comes to money. He might respond to me that money has nothing to do with morality as long as there is a modicum of transparency. This is puzzling to me. It's like greasing the cake pan but not putting in the batter. You have to have substance, the batter to bake a cake.

I'm puzzled. On the one hand, Ratigan would not care so much about the cheating if he didn't have a sense of morality about money. On the other, he seems to want to conceal whatever natural sense of morality he has. Psychological problem? Did his parents differ greatly when it came to money and social values? Sure makes me curious. Or is he just trying to be a good journalist. I'm not sure.

[sandnsea]

8. Ack

I'm watching him this morning and here's what he does. He makes a perfectly reasonable complaint about some of the aspects of the health care bill - and then he lets Dick Armey ramble on about unions and individuals should buy their own policies so they'll care more about what the policy does. That's just more "fend for yourself" and Ratigan let him go on and on as if that's a legitimate point of view without any rebuttal at all.

That's how Dobbs started out, presenting the problems correctly - but always letting that republican response carry the most weight.

[JDPriestly]

9. On the other hand, I appreciate Ratigan's understandable explanations

and dramatizations of complex economic concepts. For ordinary people, his explanations are helpful.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. It's the auto industry memory.

Decades ago, the best insurance provided to anyone was negotiated by the UAW. Since then, between give backs, cuts in bennies, and huge increases in co-pays, their insurance is no longer gilt and diamond encrusted, but very much like other group policies. Unfortunately, the perception continues to live.

Remember that the average airline pilot makes 200,000 a year, and the average auto worker makes $160,000 before benefits.

Not.

[NNN0LHI]

3. I still don't see the connection between the UAW and Blue Cross even after that

UAW is for HCR. Blue Cross is against it.

Why lump them in together in the same breath?

I don't get?

Don

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. I like Dylan, but still a breathe of fresh error, at times.

[Mika]

5. He works for GE. n/t

[JDPriestly]

7. Some unions manage retirement benefits funds including health care funds.

The House bill has, I believe, a special section with some special rules for such union retirement funds.