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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:54 AM
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Why would the people vote the Republicans back into power?
The answer is simple. Because of the Democrats.

We have problems unlike any our country has ever faced. Yet, our Democrats seem to be oblivious to them. The boat is filling up with water and they are using a thimble to dip it out.

It is the timidity of the Democratic Party and its leadership that will bring the Republicans back into power. They had a chance with healthcare to do something that would actually help the American people. They dilly-dallied around until now there is the danger that the entire plan may simply disintegrate.

Our economic system was on the verge of collapse. More than a year later, not one regulation has been put in place to prevent it from happening again. The Democratic Party became the Party of Wall Street and Big Business with their support of the massive bailouts of the big banks. They are walking on streets of gold as the average working man is looking for a job.

Nibbling at the edges of all these problems has given the Republicans a new breath of life. When the times called for courageous action, the Democrats folded. They were not ready to govern.

Now, we look at the real possibility of putting the same people back in power that got us into this mess to begin with. We needed FDR and we got Herbert Hoover.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:55 AM
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1. No, I disagree
Because the majority of Americans are sheeple and to dumb to think for themselves.






there is no god and I am his prophet
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:56 AM
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2. Pretty apt comparison ideologically the Hoover thing
People on here seem to think he was some right wing guy during the depression. He would be more aptly fit in the DLC in todays ideological spectrum.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:57 AM
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3. Because just like with the far right, the country
will eventually get tired of the far left.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:59 AM
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4. They haven't had the opportunity to get tired of the far left
They have had the opportunity to get tired of the still right of center Democrats.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:06 AM
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10. Yup...its always this way
You get Republicans in office, you get a willfully destructive and reactionary set of policies that causes us economic turmoil. Total right-wing.

You get Democrats in office, you get a refusal to fix any problems the Republicans made in any meaningful way. You get right-of-center governing.

What Americans will NEVER get is a left-wing government under the present system. Both parties hate the left with a passion, but the Democrats are perfectly willing to let their failures reflect on the left even though they do not govern that way, don't they?

Both parties are so right-shifted that "left" no longer has any meaning. Those labelled "far left" on this board were mostly centrists a couple of decades ago. I know I count myself as one of them.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:07 AM
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11. LoL!
:rofl:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:16 AM
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13. +1 n/t
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:56 AM
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22. your "right of center Democrats"
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 11:57 AM by melm00se
is another person's far left.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:02 AM
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6. The far left is running things?
When did this happen?
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:08 AM
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12. Did I say that?
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 11:18 AM by SIMPLYB1980
What I said is that the country will eventually get as tired of the far left as they are of the far right right now. That's the way it always has been.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:17 AM
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14. You left out the word "far"
Big difference......
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:18 AM
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16. Yep you are correct.
Sorry I truly did forget it.
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:19 AM
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17. our country, like a sailboat, tacks left, then right, then left, then right
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 11:21 AM by mule_train
but always toward the same destination, toward the same rocks on the shore
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:57 PM
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24. not quite...port tack, fallsoff...fallsoff, uncontrolled jibe...broach, MOB!...
DISMASTED!! MAYDAY!! RESCUE...towed in, hauled out, repaired, re-launch, port tack....

Right now we are being rescued...

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:01 AM
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5. I think the Dems have a dangerous mis-understanding of the mythical Center
The Center has a short memory. They are easily swayed by almost any narrative. They aren't politically sophisticated. They will throw an ineffectual Dem govt out just as fast as they will throw an ineffectual GOP govt out. Especially if times are bad, and they don't see any concrete improvements to their personal situation.

If the Dems are assuming that they can't lose this soon after the BushCo failures, I think they are making a big mistake.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:02 AM
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7. Same reason why marketing functions: a "old" product repackaged as a new product.
Consumers are fickle and that includes politics.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:04 AM
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8. Easier to believe lies than face realities
Think of it like pain meds for terminal cancer patients. Just push the morphine and go quietly into oblivion. That is how many operate in life.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:05 AM
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9. The boat is filling with water because Republicans are using buckets to fill it
Democrats are trying to counter with their thimbles but to no avail..Are Americans so dumb that they don't understand this? I tend to think some if not most are indeed that dumb..
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:17 AM
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15. same reason a mouse runs toward the cat's other paw
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 11:18 AM by mule_train
it doesnt seem as bad as the claws that just mauled him

and he forgot that the paw he's running toward mauled him too
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:26 AM
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18. I think you are right
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 11:28 AM by liberal_at_heart
When the teabaggers started having screaming matches at town hall meetings people wondered where are the democrats? Why aren't they rallying the way the republicans are? We had millions of democrats ready to make history and ready to make change when we voted in Obama. When I watched on election night as he won and on innauguration day I thought wow our party is ready to do something. Then kupput. The only things they have actually done is increase the minimum wage and get some additional healthcare for poor children. After that it's like they all took a check from the lobbyists and went of vacation. So, in response all the people that were standing ready for change on election night have been quieted. We are not as enthusiastic as we were on election night or the innauguration and it is because the democrats are not doing enough. We wanted history. We wanted change, and we didn't get it. I think the democrats are going to have a hard wake up call when more elections come around. We've already lost a couple of governors.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:30 AM
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19. They're flipping the proverbial dime and not seeing much difference. k&r
Just the slogans change.
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dfgrbac Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:44 AM
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20. You're right! That's a real danger for us!
The Democrats holding power today are forgetting why and how they were thrown out of power before. It was because of the corporate media that drumbeated misinformation into American voters minds. When people are uninformed and confused, we don't get democracy. We desperately need some basic security for protecting democracy.

- Public supported information services. This is what PBS was intended to be, and why Republicans hate it so much. PBS should have a cash flow input similar to CSPAN so it does not have to depend on taxpayer or donation funds. (CSPAN is financed by a tax on cable networks.)

- Secure voting machines.

- Find out what really happened on 9/11/2001!

These three things are critical, and so far I don't see the Democrats doing anything about them!

Now the corporate elite have succeeded in destroying the health care bill from the House. Dennis Kucinich explains.

My fellow citizens, we have only one choice to overcome this absolute corporate power that controls us.

The National Initiative!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:45 AM
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21. Because Dems are afraid to use the word "freedom" and republicans know it...
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 12:25 PM by bridgit
Pay very close attention to their already beginning to use the word "freedom" everywhere and all over again, just like in the run-up to Iraq and Afghanistan, from the steps of congress to RW hate-media to the wells of congress they are re-owning the word: freedom, proclaiming themselves the only ones that are not only willing to use it in a patriotic setting, but the only ones able to *understand* it

When republicans convince people that freedom means being able to buy a handful of nuts & bolts at Home Depot at their convenience, and a hotdog on the way out; or that freedom means being able to BBQ beef from Argentina; or that freedom means looking like everyone else from the WalMarts of the world to the rice patties of China and that they are the only ones able to protect those freedoms Dems fall silent

It is in that breach of misunderstanding republicans win elections
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:49 PM
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27. Beautifully said (n/t)
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:20 PM
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23. because we won't tell them what's really wrong.
That a few very well heeled heels buy our politicians, Republicans lock-stock-and-barrel and just enough Democrats in-name-only to win decisions.

We won't tell. So, they won't know.

So, the Dem voters, smarter as they are, are not smart enough to go back to the polls unless there is something in it for them, and there is nothing in it for them.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:38 PM
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25. maybe because republicans own all the voting systems in the country?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:46 PM
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26. Because the people are stupid
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