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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:59 AM Original message |
what the heck is with all these attacks on progressive dems? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. gotta love how this gets an unrec immediately |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Well, you're "whining," don't you know? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
100. why thanks! |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
120. No....None of those things are whining....howver |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. When someone complains about a rec I think what is running through their minds is... |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #129 |
136. I concur about banning comments about ...rec/unrec. |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Rec..unrec...bleh... |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. I like your signal:noise comment so much I may just adopt your policy! (N/T) |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:22 AM Response to Reply #137 |
157. You have a total of 262 posts |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #157 |
180. I don't want the Dems to embrace those things either.... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #180 |
182. What is the |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Simple... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #183 |
221. Understood. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #157 |
197. JFK platform called for 'NATIONALIZING" our oil resources . . .industry . . !!! |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #197 |
227. And this is on topic why? (N/T) |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. Let's see . . . was nationalizing oil industry a former Democratic Party ideal . . .??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #129 |
196. Nonsense . . . they "UN" articles that they don't want to rise and be noticed . . . |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 02:14 AM Response to Reply #196 |
228. Oh please.....get over yourself and put your tin foil hat away.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. It's not about "liking" or "not liking" an article . . . it's about an article's IMPORTANCE . . . |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #230 |
235. Or put another way.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #235 |
237. Importance is quite different from "like" . . . |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #120 |
170. my observation was it was unrecc'd before I even refreshed my screen |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #170 |
178. Again....so? What difference did that make? To you? To the thread? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. I had just as much right to post what I did as you did criticizing me, eh? |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #184 |
225. That it "seems about the same" to you is not surprising. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #178 |
223. "if someone posted a response one liner" |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #223 |
226. Well at least you made your reasoning clear. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #178 |
232. It's not about "liking a thread" . . . it's about the importance of a thread ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #170 |
231. Correct . . . if "UN's" can catch the thread early enough they can keep it from moving up into |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 01:16 AM Response to Reply #231 |
233. It's worse than that. If the "UN's" grab a hold of a post before others see it, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. You said it better than I did . . . keep saying it !!!! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's like those who opposed NAFTA |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
36. and look where backing off of NAFTA got us. we're not backing down on this one. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
198. The trade agreements should never have happened . . . Clinton . . . |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. I reced it for you, I am not sure why some are attacking the liberals |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. I think 55 of the 57 members of the House Progressive Caucus voter for the HCR bill |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
102. The Progressive Caucus vowed to vote no and caved |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #102 |
199. Right . .. wasn't Weiner one of those who was going to stand against anything w/o Public Option? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #199 |
224. Yes, 60 signed the pledge, including Weiner |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
145. We don't like them either, but they don't pretend to believe what we do |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. If you mean the Kuch, it's because people are realizing just how atrocious his voting record is |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yep- someone recognizes the problems |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Yeah.. the problem w congress is Kucinich |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
104. What he did was to vote against the Iraq War |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
119. Do you have voting record links to back up your big mouth? |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #119 |
163. of course not , chickenshit disappears |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
158. Kuch? Name calling. Most of us don''t consider |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, they're ops and they're doing a piss poor job of covert persuasion. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
166. so obvious and dim, but maybe the stupidity by design,anyway fuck you agent mike |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. people don't understand how it works. when they round up the votes, |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
152. Good point |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
9. If you are talking about Dennis, he isn't 'progressive'. He voted AGAINST progress. BTW, any DU'ers |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. He cast a protest vote, FOR the progress the Dems couldn't deliver. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. +1 |
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JetCityLiberal (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
84. feh, you will always be cryingshame to me |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
121. Like I posted to another respondent; links, voting record link?........ |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
147. Didn't Weiner just BETRAY THE PUBLIC OPTION . . . ??????? |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
154. Oh, allow me |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
159. His nay vote was for progress. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
200. "Progress" is a bill with no PUBLIC OPTION???????????????? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's KUCINICH who is being criticized, not Progressives in general. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. +1 |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. LOL! |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Everybody tosses Bernie out there |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. Is anyone attacking Barney Frank? No, they aren't. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
74. .... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. A few people are critical of Barney and that's "attacking"? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Easy, Killa, I was just having some fun. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Hehehehe... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Grayson is a horrible, horrible man. |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
122. Good point. I like Barney on his MANY liberal policies, but as........................ |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
117. Bernie caucuses with the Dems. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
41. +1. I never hear people blasting Sanders. What does that tell you? nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
148. You're criticizing Kuchinich for holding out for a PUBLIC OPTION????????????? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
160. Flip-flopper? |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
175. You lie. Refusing to flip-flop is precisely why he is being criticized. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. Getting what you give. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. links? examples? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Read DU. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. Asking for evidence =!= asking to be called out. (nt) |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. It's blowback for all of the attacks on Obama and supporters |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. +100 |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. I don't think it's genuine. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
150. You my friend are a very strange fellow |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #150 |
161. Many of us love Dennis. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. That aspect definitely played a roll in it |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. That IS what is driving it. I agree. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
85. He said he wouldn't vote for a bill that didn't have a robust |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:54 AM Response to Reply #85 |
149. NO PUBLIC OPTION . . . AND BETRAYAL OF WOMEN . . A DOUBLE WHAMMY . . . |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #149 |
162. Zactly. nt |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
15. The Party Faithful |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. and Dennis stands still and goes nowhere. Now THAT'S leadership. But at least he SAYS |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What progress? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Exactly - I think KW has the concept of "progessive" all backwards |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. those who consider Women getting their Rights Taken Away |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Women haven't had any rights taken away ferchrissakes |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I KNOW countless DUers have argued this point |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
133. Woman ... drama .... nice. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
188. It moves BEYOND the Hyde Amendment . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
187. What are you celebrating? No public option? Women betrayed? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. Which has to be done to a reasonable point |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. The answer is simple: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
190. Agree . . . however, the hurdle before is that we don't own our representatives; corporations do-!! |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #58 |
155. If you want to get to the destination you want it's best to follow |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
189. What success has Obama had in trying to "work with Repugs" . . . have you missed that??? |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. I don't think that the repeated accusations of being paid shills is helping |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
22. After several purges, a large, vocal minority of posters are now center/right |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. What motivates "center-right" people to post on a discussion board? Their passion for center-right |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. Negatively categorizing people who disagree with you isn't very practical |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
191. It's a clear question . . . why would the DLC embrace a progressive/liberal website . . . |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
139. psssst... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:53 AM Response to Reply #139 |
167. The support of organized labor |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #167 |
194. Organized labor should be calling Democrats out to demonstrate for PUBLIC OPTION . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #139 |
193. Exactly . . . now what do we need to do to make it one? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #193 |
222. When someone advocates for |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
165. Excellent point, Rudy. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
204. Paychecks? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. +100000000000000 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
164. Ex Republicans. nt |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
23. The hungry lions won't stop. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
26. We have to put up with attacks daily on President Obama so get used to it. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. so its petty revenge? or is it message based? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. That's funny someone from the DK is God fan club calling |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. The word is "ironic" |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. I"m in the DK is god club? really? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
168. There is NO DK is God fan club |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Are the non-stop attacks on the President "petty"? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. sure, they're petty also if they're not based on an issue |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
140. Which is exactly why Obama needs his feet kept to the fire. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
27. Check it out, I've been on this since July: |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. where there is groupthink there is bullying. great links -- shows this isn't just about the vote. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Generically name-calling using the "DLCers" montra is not helpful |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. seriously, DLCer is not name-calling. do you prefer Blue Dog? ConservaDem? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. So suggesting that calling people "corporatist DLCers" is name-calling is in itself "bullying" |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
118. After your tantrum the other night, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
207. DLC is corporate-wing of the Dem Party . . . dedicated to moving party to the right . . .!!! |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
127. It's not DU ers per se but .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #127 |
208. Rather . . . |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:27 PM Original message |
+1! |
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ProleNoMore (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
75. Rahm Emanuel Has Unleashed The Attack Dogs |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
203. We had a clue when Obama eloped into the White House with Emmanuel/DLC . . .!!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
202. Exactly . . . and we're not going to get a PUBLIC OPTION sitting at home -- !!! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
29. Because for Dennis, "Change" is more that a handy slogan. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Let's not go that far. DK never talks about a bill passing |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
205. Bill passing is not the goal . . . worthwhile bill passing is the goal . . . |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
30. Been thinkin' on this topic. Decided it is partly due to fatigue. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
37. "Message Discipline" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
43. "is this the rovian thingy being used by DLC members here " |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. sarcasm aside... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. There is no "intent"... read posts 10 and 13 again. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. well, that's confusing because both of those posts contain intent |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. A reaction is not 'revenge'... it's a reaction. (nt) |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. but a reaction depends on the original action |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Stop being disingenuous. As has been pointed out (repeatedly), no one is attacking "progressives" |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. nice sidestep |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. It's not a sidestep. People are NOT attacking progressives. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I thought you were denying the backlash aspect |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Nice try. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. LOL... sorry, I assumed we were talking about people on this site. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Yeah, right. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I know there's at least 2 or 3... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. 2 or 3... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. ... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. ... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. OMG YOU'RE RIGHT! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
51. Not Rovian or "DLC", practical consideration. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
101. the significance is that his bill is the real reform we need |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
206. Correct . . . "Americans overwhelmingly want PUBLIC OPTION" . . .!!! |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
55. You get it! |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
56. the lobbyists and DC activists don't exactly avoid sites like DU, |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
65. I've never attacked Weiner or Grayson |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Nobody is attacking them. Just goes to show all these paranoid OPs |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
88. Ted Kennedy wouldn't have voted for that piece of crap bill either |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. What makes you think so? He frickin co-sponsored NCLB. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
123. I got news for you, genius: |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:09 AM Response to Reply #123 |
151. when you follow up calling someone a genius with pure ignorance |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #151 |
177. So the HCR bill is going to save 45,00 lives this year? |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
130. This. |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
138. This Bill is NOT a public option.... |
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ProleNoMore (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
73. The DLC Supporters Have Been Unleashed By Rahm Emanuel |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
82. LERKFISH!!! |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. hiya |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Not bad. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. hehe |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. No kidding! |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
83. Because sometimes idealism has to take a back seat to pragmatism. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
209. PUBLIC OPTION isn't an "ideal" ... it's a necessity. Anything less is corporatism . . .!! |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
89. I just heard Kuchinich interviewed on Democracy Now and I'm struggling to find fault with his points |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Precisely the desperate NEED to paint him as such by those who have a hard-on for his supporters |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #89 |
169. It didn't sound like a fringe lunatic |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
103. Only One I've Seen Them Against Is Kooky Kucinich. |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Neither are you ... |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Wow, not even here 5 months and you've got 300 people on ignore? |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. 301 |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Oh My God I Think I'm Gonna Cry. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. Ha ha ha ha! What other message boards is she on? (That'll be hard to top.). n/t |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. well, this thread is amusing at least |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #103 |
172. Stop calling Dennis names! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #103 |
211. ...because going backwards and getting nothing is to be highly valued .. .???? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
109. Yeah, it has to be a conspiracy. No one could possibly disagree with /you/. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. not sure I understand you. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I did it for the lulz. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #114 |
176. ah. so you FALSELY accuse me of your own behavior |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #176 |
179. My behavior has a different reason though. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. your reason to falsely accuse of something is what, again? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
113. I stole candy from a baby today. We all have our bad days. nt |
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ProleNoMore (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
124. I Stand With Dennis Kucinich |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
212. Yes -- why support a bill with no value???? |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
126. we have been taken over by cheerleaders in the dnc and dlc |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #126 |
143. This DLC / DNC Meme is getting old ... |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #143 |
171. your points are laughable. |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #171 |
181. Before I put you o ignore .... |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. I am honored to be number 302 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #185 |
215. I reversed it and put her on ignore . . . |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #181 |
238. do me a favor putz add me to that list too |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #143 |
213. Hopefully we're only getting started on ridding the party of DLC thinking and |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #143 |
214. wait, what? |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
128. You have to understand. These are not well people. |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
131. K & R.... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
132. All in all, the attacks on progressives remind me of the way misbehaving young people treat |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. That kind of behavior.... |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. What an elitist thing to say. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #141 |
174. true dat |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #135 |
195. Oops. Wish I saw your response first, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
216. And, you don't either support a "people's" government . . . good work!!! |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #135 |
240. But at least they can spell 'Aviation'. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #132 |
192. That still happens today... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
134. Agree. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
144. who besides Kucinich? |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
146. ya really expect a group of proud conservatives allied with the C Street cult, which demands blind |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #146 |
153. Wow I knew this place was suceptable to conspiracy theorists |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #153 |
218. ....'Cause this is "Conspiracy-free America" . . . !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #146 |
217. Agree . . .. |
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gleaner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
156. I think it is because .... |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #156 |
173. excellent post. I think you have something there |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #173 |
219. Wholly agree . . . it keeps the conversation in one spot -- no moving on to next plateau . . . |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
201. Sorry I'm too late to rec this OP, but I do want to say thanks for pointing out what really has been |
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maxpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
210. I think you are on to something |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
220. k i c k |
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Jack Fate (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
234. I'd recommend if I still could |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
239. nice too see people stand up to these cretins |
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