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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:11 PM
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Roeder admits killing Dr. Tiller...going with the "protecting the preborn" defense
Monday, November 9, 2009

Scott Roeder has confessed to the shooting of a Kansas abortion provider.

The 51-year-old Kansas City, Mo., man told The Associated Press
in a telephone call from jail Monday that he plans to use the
so-called necessity defense at his trial.

Roeder contends the killing of Dr. George Tiller in May at a
Wichita church was justified to protect the lives of unborn
children.

In a telephone call from jail Monday, Scott Roeder told the AP:
"Because of the fact pre-born children's lives were in imminent
danger, this was the action I chose."

His confession comes as abortion opponents across the nation
release a new "Defensive Action Statement" arguing for the same
force to protect the unborn as is justified to protect born
children. The 21 signers want jurors to be allowed to consider that
defense at Roeder's Jan. 11 trial.

Among the signers are Eric Rudolph, James Kopp and Shelley
Shannon -- all serving prison time for targeting abortion doctors.

http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/69589412.html
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:12 PM
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1. Terrorists always claim to be serving some kind of higher calling
It goes with the territory.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:12 PM
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2. He's a terrorist
and so is Hasan.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:20 PM
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8. Hasan is? How do you know this?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:21 PM
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9. please do not rant and make this off topic it is about Roeder
and the killing of a man devoted to Women
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:32 PM
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12. I didnt bring it up. Point your anger elsewhere.
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 08:32 PM by rd_kent
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:33 PM
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13. no anger
it was both posts :)
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:14 PM
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3. I wouldn't be so sure
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 08:14 PM by AnnieBW
In Missouri? He'll get off scott free. Probably even get the keys to the city of Kansas City. :mad:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:17 PM
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5. its Kansas
but yea, he has a lot of friends
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:16 PM
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4. Can the judge disallow this so -called 'defense'?
I hope that, if another doctor is murdered or assaulted, all the signers of that statement are charged with conspiracy or incitement or something similar...
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:18 PM
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6. He won't ever be able to get such an instruction
This crap is all for fund raising, not for the courtroom.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:22 PM
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10. I like what one poster said.
Dr. Tiller never performed any abortions at church so the "imminent danger" clause won't work. That Defensive Action Pact was signed by many of Roeder's fellow Operation Rescue members.




Here is the Eagle's take opinions and all




http://www.kansas.com/news/featured/story/1047671.html?qwxq=6660712&commentSort=TimeStampAscending&pageNum=4&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:19 PM
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7. What a pre-dead idiot
And he has all of the "big league" of doctor-murdering with him.

Scum.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:26 PM
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11. His legal strategy is one of two things:
1) Hung jury with a mistrial
2) Jury nullification like OJ
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:09 PM
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14. Can I copyright a novel I haven't yet written? nt
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:40 PM
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16. not sure what you mean
can you elaborate?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:45 PM
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17. Well, if nutbags can kill to defend the life of people not born, can I copyright a novel I've been
thinking about but haven't written? I want to be non-violent nutbag.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:45 PM
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19. oh, I get it
good one
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:45 PM
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24. Hey, that's the name of my novel. Copyright infringement!!!!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:27 PM
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15. Maybe Stupak will pay for his defense.
:/
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:22 PM
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22. Or Pelosi will call the Vatican to help him
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:47 PM
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18. Can we execute him yet?
Seriously, this son-of-a-bitch has earned a date with the needle...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:59 PM
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20. He'll be meeting new friends one day in prison, yes he will......
even briefly, yes he will.............
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:17 PM
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21. and the neg rep is why?
not sure
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:33 PM
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23. Protecting the preborn but killing the living
Some morality.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:10 PM
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25. he is a piece
of CRAP
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:34 PM
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26. I suppose it never occurred to him that he also needed to protect
the unborn from their own moms who do things that endanger them.

Why didn't he set up his own little army of spies to keep tabs on women who don't take their prenatal vitamins...who drink...smoke...take drugs (prescription and otherwise)...endanger their fetuses by staying in relationships where they're being hit or knocked around by abusive husbands or boyfriends...


I have a friend who has had custody of her oldest daughter's two children since they were very small. The daughter did crack and other drugs. The kids are so fucked up they'll NEVER have a "normal" life. They've been on just about every medication under the sun..in and out of foster homes, in and out of "boot camps"...etc. The boy tried killing his little cousin in the swimming pool. That's just for starters.

Nobody was there to make sure his mom wouldn't do drugs while she was pregnant with him and his sister.

No...the fuckers are all out "protecting" the unborn who will never even be aware of a thing anyway.
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