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RooseveltTruman Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:09 PM
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John F. Kennedy: Liberal or Conservative (or neither?)
Because John F. Kennedy died in office, both liberals and conservatives like to ascribe to him various positions and traits that buttress their own views. He has, in essence, become a bit of a historical Rorschach. In any case, I recently had a big debate with a guy who said Kennedy was "essentially conservative," whereas I was arguing that he was more of a liberal than anything else. This leads me to the question I want to pose to all of you: Do you consider John F. Kennedy to be a liberal or a conservative?

Here are some points illustrating both points of view (summarized from our argument):

Civil rights
Conservative: Kennedy was indifferent to civil rights for most of his public career.
Liberal: By 1963, Kennedy had become more active in support of civil rights. He deployed federal marshalls in 1962 to allow James Meredith to enroll in his first class at the University of Mississippi. Furthermore, after George Wallace infamously blocked the doorway of University of Alabama, John F. Kennedy gave one of his most famous speeches, his civil rights speech, on June 11, 1963. In it, he proposed what would become the Civil Rights Act of 1964.http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03CivilRights06111963.htm

Foreign Policy
Conservative: Kennedy was a foreign policy hawk for most of his career, running in 1960 on a plank that was very anti-Soviet and very aggressive. He (hesitantly) allowed the Bay of Pigs to go forward, escalated the conflict in Vietnam, and approved a CIA coup in Iraq that saw the imprisonment of intellectuals and the establishment of the Baath regime.
Liberal: By the last year of his life (post-Bay of Pigs), he was moving in a more dovish direction. He negotiated the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, and gave a famous speech about world peace at American University on June 10, 1963. http://www1.media.american.edu/speeches/Kennedy.htm He grew wary of Vietnam, authorizing withdrawal of 1,000 troops shortly before his death (LBJ reversed it) According to Robert McNamara, he wanted to end the war. Also, his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis suggested someone more pragmatic than aggressive.

Social Welfare:
Conservative: Focused on retraining as opposed to reviving New Deal programs
Liberal: Championed Health Care for the Aged bill, which he called "Medicare." Spoke of the need for universal health care. Wanted to strengthen and continue Social Security

Housing:
Liberal: Kennedy signed Omnibus Housing Bill 1961, which proposed spending $3.19 billion on a massive government housing program for the working poor. It also called for the creation of the Department of Housing and Urban Urban Affairs.

Taxes:
Conservative: Passed a tax cut that dwarfed even Reagan's later cut
Liberal: This was primarily a demand-side cut, not a supply-side cut.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:16 PM
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1. You have to start as a timeline


He started as a hardline cold warrior, approving the Bay of Pigs and elevating the rhetoric in confrontation with Kruschev.


The Cuban missle crises taught him that his earlier hardline actions helped fuel the behavior of the Soviets.



The interesting thing about Kennedy is how he grew as President.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:19 PM
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2. Funny, that's what Marilyn said about him too.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:33 PM
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3. bada bump
I'm sure you'll be here all week.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:02 PM
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4. JFK sought MLK's support....

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politics/2003/11/An-Anti-Catholic-King.aspx


We in the Civil Rights Section of the <Kennedy> campaign wanted somehow to demonstrate Kennedy's support for King and King's respect for Kennedy, and thought a well-publicized meeting of the two would help. We thought it would add important momentum to the campaign, and help counteract the anti-Catholic mood of many deeply Protestant Negro clergymen. King's own father, a Baptist minister, had signed a newspaper advertisement for Nixon, solely on religious grounds.

<Later in the campaign, intervention from the Kennedys helped get King released from jail.> Outside the prison, King said, "I am deeply indebted to Senator Kennedy, who served as a great force in making my release possible."


It is relevant to note that a white militia group (The Minutemen) may have played a role in the JFK assassination.


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:13 PM
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6. At best, Kennedy was timid on racial issues.
He was still counting on those southern democrats after all.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:07 PM
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5. If moderate means middle of the road and reasoned, I think that was JFK
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 09:07 PM by keep_it_real
Remember his executive order to print American dollars without the federal reserve that LBJ rescinded on the day JFK was murdered?
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