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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:54 PM
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When will Americans get angry with getting screwed daily?
I defy anyone to name an issue on which we have not been screwed by our Democratic/Republican corporate owned government.

The Democratic Party has decided to ignore us. They’ve also confused compromise with surrender. And they’ve forgotten the meaning of the word “sane.”

I really need someone to tell me any major changes that have taken place between the Bush and Obama administrations. I can name only one. The rest of the world doesn’t hate us as much since Obama took office.

That aside, is your life any better? Do you really believe we have “public option” health care on the table? Have our troops left Iraq or Afghanistan? Do you think any politician is ready to stand up for principal at the risk of losing the next election?

Yeah, I know all about "blue dog Dems," but there is leverage that can be brought against them to make them, at the very least, act like Democrats.

We are so, so screwed. And if you think we aren’t, let’s hear your argument.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:58 PM
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1. Hey! the future is bright with Democrats in charge because... um... uh...
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:58 PM
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2. Never
as long as all of the wealthiest people have the power and they're not getting screwed.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:01 PM
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3. I agree, were screwed
And I have little doubts both party's know things cant continue this way much longer, that being blatant about ignoring the people isnt viable for the long term, but they dont care.

Our political system is like a riot, where everyone tries to grab as much merchandise as they can before they get caught.

They dont care if the place burns to the ground, as long as the looting is still possible.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:10 PM
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8. Our politicians really need to update themselves on
Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette, and the French Revolution.

Or perhaps they can read about what the American revolution was all about.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:08 PM
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4. oh we are truly fucked
just seeing the cheerleaders on DU is enough to let me know we are in serious trouble
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:11 PM
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10. They do provide a perverse entertainment though.
Frustrating, but somehow entertaining too.

No matter how bleak and barren the landscape, people can always laugh. :P
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:15 PM
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12. I just cannot see it that way, ThomCat
in the same way that repukes used to amuse me - until they sent America off a fucking cliff - we've got to snap people out of their stupor, and FAST
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:55 PM
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21. "Night of the Living Dead-ish," isn't it?
They're killing us!
YAY!
I mean WHAT THE FUCK?
I think it is Stockholm Syndrome.
People are so used to being held captive they now sympathize with their kidnappers.
BHN
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:49 PM
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33. it is indeed some kind of syndrome
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 09:50 PM by Skittles
and it surely sucks bigtime seeing it on a Democratic board - they are making DU look utterly foolish
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:10 PM
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37. More like The Last Days of Jonestown. n/t
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:09 PM
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5. In which country of the world of 300+ million population is the situation better?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:11 PM
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9. Is that the solution then??
Get rid of some of the people to get back to a more manageable nation??
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:13 PM
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11. So we should just sit around, take all the crap, and do nothing???
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:18 PM
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13. Europe has better safety nets and they seem to be pulling out of the recession..
at a faster clip overall.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:19 PM
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14. If you mean, "in which industrial nation is the situation better?"
Almost all of them. We rank either low or very low compared to our peers in almost all regards.

Infant mortality
Life span
Quality of life
Democracy
Freedom of press
Educational achievement
Class mobility
Etc.

The only thing I know of in which we score #1 in the world is military expenditures. That's it. That is the only thing the US is still good at. Doesn't that just make you so proud? :(
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bikingaz Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:37 PM
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31. don't forget the highest deficit in the world
We're number one. We're number one.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:09 PM
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6. Once they finally decide the crumbs they're fighting over aren't worth fighting over.....
nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:09 PM
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7. When American Idol and Dancing with the Stars goes off the air
and they can no longer buy lottery tickets in the hopes of joining the wealthy.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:28 PM
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15. When net neutrality ends and the internet becomes corporate only nt
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:31 PM
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16. We're actually doing great for a third world nation...cheer up.
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samrock Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:33 PM
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17. Reminds me of a old Everly Brorthers song.. hehe

I've been cheated, been mistreated
When will I be loved
I've been made blue, I've been lied to
When will I be loved
I've been turned down, I've been pushed round
When will I be loved
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:44 PM
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18. Never, because we are made passive by wall-to-wall school-ing
Passive to sit quietly and follow an insane amount of rules and tolerate trivialities for the first 12 years of our rational lives.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:51 PM
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19. Honeybee hive collapse was well-handled in a fair and bipartisan manner. nt
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:52 PM
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20. The nose is around the masses neck and we are on our tip toes.
Won't be long now before we hang.
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lefty369 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:57 PM
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22. Seems like both parties are the same. Same BS agendas
I don't see any different from my viewpoint.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:00 PM
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24. Welcome to DU, and your observation is correct.
we, the people, are on our own.
Like bark and dirt soup?
That's what we are all expected to survive on from here out.

Both parties are owned by the multi national corporate thugs and don't give a damn about us.

That should be clear to all by now, but it isn't.

BHN
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lefty369 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:18 PM
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27. So what should we do about it?
Who is behind the corporations?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:08 PM
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36. Learn to like bark soup...
Too many people THINK they know the problem, they don't.
Therefore the ptb continue to rule.

Even here on DU the comprehension of the REAL problem is extremely limited
inour members.
Stick around, you'll soon begin to see what I am talking about.

BHN
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:32 PM
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30. AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH. NT
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:00 PM
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23. 2004
When the DLC-backed Kerry was FORCED down our throats. When it was found out in January of 2004 that the Kerry, Edwards and Gebhardt campaigns PAID FOR THE ANTI-DEAN ads (the ones comparing Dean to Osama bin Laden). When, as an e-board member, my arm was twisted HARD by the party shills to persuade those in my area to back Kerry instead of Dean. I resigned everything and changed my registration from Democrat to Declined to State. After doing a little checking, I just found out the Greens meet every second Thursday.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:14 PM
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25. Americans DO have a high tolerance for screwage
I'm constantly amazed how one third of the population protests the screwing, another third ENCOURAGES it with bad policies and the last third has no clue what's going on.

OK, it's more like 40/20/40, but you get the drift.

But I'll tell you this - Canadians wouldn't put up with this crap for more than ONE electoral cycle. We may have our problems, but at least we don't have politicians LYING on easily Googleable FACTS and we don't have certifiable morons like Palin, Bachmann, Coburn, or Boehner anywhere NEAR the reins of power.

What's the problem here? Bad education system? Money in every nook and cranny of politics? False impressions of their own situations? Corrupt media? Maybe all of the above?

One thing's for sure. America is rapidly losing it's prestige in the world. Not neceesarily it's military or monetary might. Just the prestige.

And with that goes it's influence. And with that goes it's dominance.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:17 PM
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26. What really pisses me off is that
we not only continue to be screwed, we're still not even getting the common courtesy of a reach-around. Hope, change, meh ....

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:19 PM
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28. most folks are scrambling to keep their heads above water... i think few pay attention on a regular
basis.

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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:31 PM
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29. Yes we are screwed and in what's left of my life of 61
I don't see people rising up to fight it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:46 PM
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32. As long as we have a full belly at night, never.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:50 PM
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34. As is readily apparent on DU, there is plenty of rage. It's just being directed at each other,
or inward.

Our Rugged Individualism doesn't allow us to band together and express the rage where it truly belongs.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:04 PM
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35. I hate to say it but you are right. nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:48 PM
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38. Sadly too many American's don't know they're being screwed.
They're either mis-informed or too busy with other crap to pay attention.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:10 AM
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39. Probably never.
People these days are more interested in "reality" TV, balloon boy, idiotic celebrities getting in trouble with the law and acquiring more material possessions than the person next to them than improving their families, their communities, the United States of America, and the planet Earth.

I read "Fast Food Nation" about a year after it first came out and thought it was a great book...not unlike Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle." His work a hundred years ago mobilized changes to the meat-packing industry. Schlosser's book was just as big an expose, but no new laws were passed and no social change resulted...because when the average American and the corporate media care more about Paris Hilton or a big shiny balloon racing across the sky than what goes into their bodies on a daily basis, there will be little if any important social change and/or new laws and government benefits that benefit the average citizen.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:17 AM
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40. The ones falling lockstep:


Thank you Sir! Can I have another?

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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:48 AM
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41. the answer is blowin' in the wind. nt
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