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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:36 PM
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Here is what would have happened if Rahm was on our side
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 06:50 PM by AllentownJake
A letter from Rahm Emmanuel, Chief of Staff of the President of the United States


Dear Blue Dog Mother Fucker,

You will vote for a bill with a strong public option or I personally will recruit a primary challenger against you and hold a gala fundraiser in your district with the President of the United States.

There will be no fucking nonsense. No abortion admenments, and no talks of how the public option might effect the budget.

Sincerely,

Rahm Emmanuel

P.S. I fucking made you, I will fucking break you.
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:39 PM
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1. I think you made the point very nicely.
Too bad he didn't.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:44 PM
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2. LOL!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:45 PM
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3. Well Done, Sir!
Such letters ought indeed to be going out.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:47 PM
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4. So true. Too bad he's working for the other side.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:49 PM
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5. Emanuel works for the president and was his choice of aides. nt
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:37 PM
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33. people keep saying that..
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 02:37 PM by frylock
guess Obama isn't as smart as people would like to make him out to be.
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:41 PM
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36. When I hear Rahm Emanuel, the first word that comes to mind is SLIME! When
I hear Barack Obama, however much he has disappointed, the word slime doesn't enter my mind. I agree he's responsible for the mess with his "wonderful" appointments, but I don't think they are of the same cloth. As I've said before, I don't think the problem is Obama. The problem is not enough Obamas in D.C. Admittedly, he needs to get an exterminator and clean house.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:12 PM
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47. Thats like saying the wealthy industrialist drug king pin is clean
because he hires people to do his violence. In fact the guys in charge are the slimiest ones.

Obama is in charge. Obama owns his policy choices. Obama owns his performance vs his promises. They call it slime because it is so slick, your attention just slips off it. It's working less now than last Spring, and it will be gone pretty soon.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:19 PM
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64. +1 nt
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:49 PM
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6. exactly!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:50 PM
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7. You just said a mouth full -- SO TRUE!!
Rahm sucks.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:53 PM
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8. Silly rabbit, progressives are supposed to be tame and docile creatures.
DLC-ers -er- make sausage and tough compromises and other manly stuff.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:54 PM
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9. lol you've taken the romanticized version of Rahm and hit the nail on the head!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:55 PM
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10. that's the way a rethuglican would have done it.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:55 PM
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11. It would have gotten done
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:25 AM
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26. Oh, please
Being nice, simpering little nobodies who don't want to offend the delicate sensibilities of Blue Dogs has gotten us exactly jack shit.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:32 PM
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66. The Blue Dogs didn't vote in lockstep.
Gabrielle Giffords self-describes as a BD and voted against Stupak and for the bill.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:39 PM
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34. republicans get shit done..
the dems should take a page from their playbook instead of wringing their hands over some perceived bipartisan bullshit.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:03 PM
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45. Dems get lots of things done, too.
Whether you like it or not is a different discussion.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:52 PM
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55. republicans don't give two shits about the appearance of bipartisanship..
the dems should take a page from their playbook instead of wringing their hands over some perceived bipartisan bullshit.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:40 AM
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70. The bi-partisan thing is just an excuse dems use to serve their corporate masters.
It's pretty obvious by now.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:29 PM
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50. LBJ wasn't much better when he got Medicare shoved through the Senate.
But I'm just saying... :shrug:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:51 AM
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78. Which is why they have a stranglehold over the legislature, despite being in the minority
GOP tactics work, plain and simple. We need to start emulating them.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:59 PM
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Amen!
K&R
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:59 PM
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12. I've always despised the corporate DLC & fucking Rahm Emmanuel perfectly typifies why!
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 07:16 PM by GreenTea
The DLC leans towards right of center....and why I hate these corporate DLC bastards!

It started with the asshole Terry McAuliffe kissing corporate ass and making them promises for their corporate donations....And just like the mob, you ask them for help & money....you owe them forever, at a much higher price than what you actually received from them....

Now we are paying the price with other DLC corporate assholes in power like Rahm Emmanuel selling out the people in favor of corporations.

Oh sure, Rahm is a rich man, who will only get much, much richer from the same corporations through the years of his life....So fuck the people, Rahm will get his!

Rahm will tell you, well, that's how the "game" is played!
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:21 PM
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13. R.E. is not on our side - Obama is not on our side - the Democratic Party is not on our side
Bad Bad Bad Rahm Emmanuel, Obama and Dems.

They are not on our side

Sincerely

Karl Rove
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:27 PM
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14. It is too bad that he is trying to gut the left wing of the party
and he apparently doesn't really give a damn about whether or not women are given equal rights, or any rights at all. Women are just a special interest to him, and one that doesn't bribe him enough for him to care.

:grr:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:37 PM
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15. Too bad he's corrupt
he has some FDR and LBJ fire in him...for the wrong things.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:19 PM
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16. True, reserves that for our Progressive organizations
and sadly they wilt under his pressure.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:21 PM
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17. Like I have been seeking for a year---L E A D E R S H I P.
We needed it, never got it.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:16 PM
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42. +100
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:27 PM
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65. But...but...but we got an historic election...
WE WON!!! :silly:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:07 PM
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18. Ahh...If only he had been on our side... k/r
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:08 PM
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19. I'm sure that plenty of such letters have gone to progressives.
The corporate types, on the other hand, seem to get only tonguebaths.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:43 AM
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20. And then he would send them each a crate of dead fishes.
That would be my favorite part.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:51 AM
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21. Word for word
Well done.

Too bad Rahm is in no way on our side.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:02 AM
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22. AJ, it is a joy to watch your budding style at addressing reality.
You give me much hope for our people. You work so hard, on so many fronts, and with such integrity.

Yep, it gives one hope, and perhaps that bit of energy to stay in the game ones self. :patriot:
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ProleNoMore Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:16 AM
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23. We Know From Democracy Now And Obama Contributions That Obama Sold Us Out
eom
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:19 AM
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24. K&R
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:24 AM
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25. K&R
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:12 PM
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27. K&R
Sadly, it never was to be ..
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:14 PM
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28. Ouch! K&R
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:07 PM
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29. But of course Rahm recruited many of those Blue Dogs and Obama recruited Rahm
so what else could anyone expect but that he would act as he had? K+R
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:09 PM
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30. Ah if only...
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:24 PM
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31. Bump!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:26 PM
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32. How hard was that?
It could have happened.

If only he had wanted it.

And only if Obama had wanted it. :(
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:39 PM
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35. Great Comment... Would That It Was True!! And Obama Could Have
SECONDED it!!!
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:45 PM
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37. Rahm is as Republican as Pence and as despicable as Rove. n/t
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 02:50 PM
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38. Yup, Obama found his perfect Dick Cheney n/t
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:05 PM
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39. too bad he hates america so much..and women in particular...
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:06 PM
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40. LOL, if only.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:15 PM
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41. Hey Allentown Jake,
Nail met hammer. I've couldn't have said it better. :applause: :applause:

When will Democratic Party ever get back to fighting for the working class men, women and children of the US?

Rahm Emanuel wouldn't know how to talk to someone that's working class. Rahm baby, you're nothing but a yuppie, plain and simple. Have you ever done a day's hard labor for anything in your life, i.e., digging ditches, carrying lumber, etc. I highly doubt it...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:05 PM
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58. He, the DNC and Baucus do what the president tells them to do. nt
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:25 PM
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43. Spot-On
:thumbsup:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:50 PM
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44. LOL! I love it!

KR

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:07 PM
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46. But what about Olympia Snow?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:21 PM
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48. So true!! Now we need to inform the COS that we expect that note to be in every
Blue Dawg Turd's mailbox tomorrow A.M.

A hearty recommendation.

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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:27 PM
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49. What a bunch of turncoats!

When Rahm recruited these Blue Dogs and WON congressional seats in moderate and congressional districts/states FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, he was our Messiah. If not for him these conservative Dems would be replaced by conservative REPUBLICANS. That's far worse! Liberal candidates, like us, would lose CONVINCINGLY in those districts/states. CONVINCINGLY.

Blame the foolish right-wing nutjobs Rahm conned into voting Dem, not him. I hope he can recruit blue dogs to replace EVERY REPUBLICAN!!!

Ofcourse, a liberal Dem would be ideal but that's not going to happen in a lot of places.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:32 PM
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51. "Our" messiah? You must have us confused with DLC Underground.
In many of those districts, a progressive would've won. Howard Dean's strategy was better.
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 02:32 AM
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72. How?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:41 PM
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54. What is the difference between conservative dems and republicans?
I would vote for a moderate pro choice socially liberal GOp candidate before i would support these fol;ks and you want MORE of them? And Rahm didn't win anything with those selections.The 50 State strategy was in play Rahm actually fought against winning. The sad part is those seats could have been won by decent people.
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 02:42 AM
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73. Where are you going to find a socially liberal GOP candidate?
They are called Libertarians and the GOP laughs at them when they run in primaries.

Here's the difference: we can work/compromise with conservative Dems. Conservative Reps are uncompromising. It's not always an easy relationship, but it's better than the big nothing we get from Repukes. Just my theory.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 02:55 AM
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74. There are actually quite a few but they are scared..I actually know a few in
believe it our not our local political scene,but they are usually smacked down by the conservatives.And they aren't libertarians.There is even a pro choice woman state senator who often votes with the dems. There was a gay Republican Mayor and a Gay Republican City Council person and a Gay GOP legislator.I would support theme before I would support a Stupak Dem.And I have never supported a Republican in my life.
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:04 AM
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75. That's on the local level...I'm talking national
I was born/raised in MD. We had a GOP govenor for years. Disagreed with Bush on almost everything and never went to any W rallies. He was appreciated there for his honesty, compitence, and fiscal responsibility. Nationally though, he was screwed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 03:22 AM
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76. Dunno. I think we could elect a few to congress. They certainly
could replace the Conservudems in the GOP states.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:50 PM
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52. lol, Yup.
:rofl:
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:36 PM
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53. I think we'd have single payer nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:54 PM
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56. Were you serious? Is this really how you think
things get done?
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 05:57 PM
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57. The real eye-opener has been just how few Democrats
support real health care reform at all. With only a handful of exceptions, they've been working tirelessly to craft an insurance industry friendly bill that they could mislabel as "reform."
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:19 PM
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59. Kick
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:35 PM
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60. see, that's who I thought B was bringing to the game with him
not this weak sauce he's got right now.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:36 PM
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61. Yep. Back in the day NO ONE defied Lyndon Johnson!!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:13 PM
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62. To be fair
LBJ was a Washington power broker for years before his presidency. He had enough dirt to hold sway over key Congressmen and Senators.
Obama is the new guy on the block.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:17 PM
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63. I was referring to his days as Senate Majority Leader....not as President.
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 07:18 PM by BrklynLiberal
I think that Reid is almost as big a waste of protoplasm as the repukes.
He has done NOTHING to hold the Democrats together and take advantage of the strength that a Majority party should have.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:16 PM
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67. Democrats
need someone like The Hammer, but without the ethical deficiencies.
They'll drag out health care as long as the insurance lobby keeps sending "contributions."
Liebermann wouldn't be pulling his bullshit with a strong leader at the helm.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:06 PM
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69. Exactly.....
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:31 PM
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68. shhhhhh were supposed to support this crap
no matter what it smells like.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:18 PM
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71. Yes, It's Not as if Any of This Were Really Hard to Discern
People have to now face the fact that they have had clues for a very long time, that our true Democratic Party has been taken over by Republican corporate lobbying interests as surely as it was during the 1920s, and stop falling for every act that comes along.

For years, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore and all the rest of the "D"LC talked about a "new" Democratic Party, not like the Roosevelts, not against business and not for unions, not for social programs, etc., and all that time they only leveled criticism against liberals and the middle class and poor to "change," "face reality," etc. They started the routine that "only they know how to win," you don't, you are obsolete, etc., as if Clinton were the only Democratic President, etc. This was when they started their dismantling of the National Party structure, their meetings with corporate lobbyists and fund-raisers only, and their turning over of all Party resources to "the Bill Clinton personality fan club" and to corporate candidates who did not have actual opinions of their own.

They lost the Congress after the 1994 mid-terms, because they tried to get people onto HMOs from their traditional coverage, and people rebelled or had enough. They started the (never-ending) chant of "bi-partisan," and "both sides of the aisle," as if the people and their concerns about business crime and corruption were now "ideological" issues, and the majority was now "not centrist," but lobbying deregulators were.

You might recall that when Bush was trying to kill Social Security with that stupid, disastrous "private" "savings account" scheme--which older people rebelled against mightily--Rahm Emanuel, from the Wall St. financial-investment world, also proposed a stupid, disastrous scheme that would have been managed by Wall St. investment brokers.

The corrupt corporate lobbyist Tom Daschle, thrown out by voters and unable to pass a corruption-inspection for HHS secretary, is now the White Houe liason and "architect" (Daschle's own word) for the stupid, incoherent commercial insurance schemes being pushed now. Daschle, a lobbyist for countless financial and health-industry corporations, invented the muddled, fractured structure that no one can follow, of "co-ops," and "triggers," and "exchanges," all managed by commercial profit-makers, so as to kill any reference to Medicare and other things the majority wants. There was a great article on Daschle, the prick, at the New York Times, August 23, 2009, called, "Daschle Has Ear of White House and Health Industry," still available online.

Just study a little bit about the brilliant way, or many ways, that both the FDR and Johnson Administrations dealt with convincing people in Congress to vote for something important--all the schmoozing, and talking, and having drinks, and trading favors, and allowing others to get credit, and reworking bills, and promising, and threatening, and appealing to vanity--you realize why they were so great. It is not only smart, but prolonged hard work, to get great bills passed, and they both did. Obama and Emanuel, etc., have done nothing--but they meet with corporate lobbyists all the time.

Obama appointed Emanuel, Geithner, Hillary Clinton, Daschle, Lawrence Summers, kept Bernancke, etc., etc.--eventually, you have to face facts. They are the same group. They rail and rail against (generic wording) "Washington," "politics," "partisanship," blah--the teens cheer--and then, nothing. They do nothing: no campaign finance reform, no prosecutions of Bush/Cheney officials, no regulations or even investigations of financial industries, and no charges of any kind, no jobs programs, no raising of the minimum wage, no help for the poor, unemployed beyond increasingly hard-to-get unemployment benefits extensions by Congress which once were almost automatic, no help for debtors; nothing. "I believe in the free market," meaning deregulated by and for the largest multinationals, and expressing admiration for that asshole Reagan. It always should have been clear. For all the pretense of Obama having so much "pressure," "burden," "worst times since the 1930s," (or most annoying, when they claim, "worst times ever"), the fact is, there was a huge wave of happiness, warmth, good-will, and support, and people were very willing to wait as long as it took to get things started to recovery. There has been nothing, but efforts the other way--all pro-corporate, pro-rich--and this, and only this, is why people have had enough. We cried for Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt, and we got some Reagan-Bill Clinton "framing" fake.
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