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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 05:48 PM
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New Recipe: How to make American Sausage
Folks, we all need to learn how the game is played.

First Team A (The House) makes a set of rules.

Then Team B (The Senate) makes their set of rules.

After they both vote on their sausage techniques... ALL the rules get merged together for a final bill, and part of the MERGE is that ANYTHING can be changed.

If the Republicans just stall, they win. We need to keep moving forward, and let's all not dwell on the "minor" details RIGHT NOW.

When the FINAL BILL gets reconciled, there will be:

1. A PUBLIC OPTION
2. No Anti-Abortion Amendment

Bank on it! Calm down, and learn how the game is played.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 05:53 PM
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1. I know right? Cracks me up. Civil rights for all is taking how long? We shouldn't have
to wait but think if we'd said all or nothing during women's suffrage. We would have gotten nothing.

I hate it. I hate the fact that we can't have it all now. Blacks, Women, and Gays should have gotten Civil Rights from the get go but it took time. I'm so glad that we didn't do all or nothing because if we did, I'd be cleaning y'alls toilets instead of being where I am now.

Props to the peeps who fought....now it's time for me to fight for my Gay, Lesbian, Bi, and Transgender brothas and sistas. I'm not to tired to fight.

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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:04 PM
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3. Time is painful, but it is on OUR side
We are winning.. albeit very slowly. We need to keep the fight.

Civil Rights for all is up next! The steamroller moves very slowly, but it IS moving forward.
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:03 PM
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2. Amen! You win wars one battle, one step at a time
Whether its health care, the environment, women's equality, civil rights, GBLT rights --- any progressive agenda item, if we gave up the game simply because we didn't get our idealized outcome right away we'd still be living in America circa 1900.

Lets take this step. Consolidate our position and set a new goal. The final bill on health care will undoubtedly leave someone out, not be affordable enough or not bring down costs or add too much to the deficit. But each of these is an addressable issue. Once we get off the status quo we can identify new targets for new efforts.

But we must keep the pressure on. We do best if we maintain united.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:00 AM
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4. "The moral arc of justice is long but it bends towards justice" n/t
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