Elite college students proud of 'pro-rape' Facebook page

[ccharles000]

A GROUP of past and present University of Sydney students set up a ''pro-rape'' page in the sports and recreation section on Facebook, describing themselves as ''anti-consent''.

The male students, mostly from the elite, all-male St Paul's College, initially ensured the ''Define Statutory'' group had an open, public profile, and proudly displayed their membership on their personal Facebook pages.

Both the commander of the NSW Police sex crimes unit and the head of the NSW Rape Crisis Centre condemned the site, describing it as ''grooming perpetrators of sexual violence''.

The Facebook page, which has since shut but ran from August until late last month, is part of a broader culture at the residential colleges that demeans women in a sexist and often sexually violent way, experts say.

The Herald has spoken to several women, also past and present residential college students, who have experienced sexual assault and attempted assaults on campus. They say the privileged atmosphere of colleges, combined with a culture of binge drinking and few restraints on behaviour, mean most rapes go unreported.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/elite-college-students-proud-of-prorape-facebook-page-20091108-i3js.html

[ccharles000]

1. kick

[roguevalley]

28. quaint. I hope the list goes around to the ivy league corporations

and gets them the door at resume time, the bastards. If that were my kid, you wouldn't be finding the body.

[redqueen]

2. Sad to say I'm not surprised. (nt)

[geek tragedy]

3. Destined to be a prosecution exhibit when

these prison-bound losers act on their misogyny.

I would hope any and all future employers review their handiwork.

[Liberal_in_LA]

14. The details of this story are very disturbing..some of these guys have raped

most likely. Search for other articles. there are testimony from women who were raped but filed no charges or no charges were filed. Really horrific.

hopefully the publicity will lead to some consequences for these savages.

[redqueen]

23. Most of the time no charges are filed.

Women end up being blamed too often, it dissuades victims from bothering to file charges... many have a hard enough time not blaming themsleves.

[niyad]

4. disgusting.

[KamaAina]

5. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[niyad]

6. I think all of these little charmers need to be paid a visit by big bad bubba, and then see how

they feel about rape.

[JonQ]

7. I think it's a great idea

let the budding rapists identify themselves publicly prior to harming anyone.

If someone wants to voluntarily let you know that they are a dangerous soon to be felon you should let them do so (and listen).

[supernova]

8. There's a certain Darwin Award principle

at work there, that's for sure.

Having said that, ewwwwww!

Any woman with 1/2 a mind will steer clear of them and hopefully, they will be self-selective monks. :P

[Egnever]

9. you seem to be obsessed with twisted individuals

9 out of 10 of your posts deal with deviants. whats the deal?

[redqueen]

11. It doesn't seem that way to me.

It doesn't seem that these threads are about deviants so much as they are about issues that impact women.

[Echo In Light]

10. Funny how often 'Elite' translates into Evil Cocksucker

[redqueen]

12. Why

is "cocksucker" an insult?

[LeftyMom]

13. It's a lingering artifact of Roman culture, I suspect.

The most spectacularly naughty insult they had was irrumatio which means mouth-fucking (and was only used toward males, implying passivity.) There was another word for an active participant in oral sex, which was not considered insulting, but there's been plenty of time for meanings to change.

[redqueen]

19. I dunno if it was Carlin...

but some comedian had a great bit about that... about why is "fuck you" an insult... cause "fuck you" is nice! Not sure if "cocksucker" was part of that routine, but it fits for me. :)

I've heard some say it's an anti-gay slur... and others that it's anti-woman. Whatever it is, it's fucking stupid IMO... cause as I said... cocksucking = nice.

[Echo In Light]

21. He has several bits on the use of such language, especially the collective obsession w/"assholes"

But Carlin could deliver "cocksucker," and did so often, like no other comedian/social critic. Whether or not his use of it indicated an unconscious contempt for women, gays, or the act of cock sucking itself, is unknown to me

[redqueen]

24. If you think I was insinuating

that you have an unconscious contempt for women or gays, you are very much mistaken.

I was simply trying to draw out the reason why the word is an insult... that's all.

[Echo In Light]

25. Perhaps a Google search into the origins of the term then?

Surely that would yield the objective conclusion you seek, as opposed to my subjective one ;)

[redqueen]

26. Heh... well yeah...

but I wanted to 'open it up to the floor' so to speak. Much more interesting that way, IMO. :)

[Echo In Light]

27. Depends upon what one is searching for, or hoping to find in a sub-thread

Start a new one on the topic?

[Echo In Light]

15. Because it's a great swear word. But feel free to try to smear me w/it somehow...

... since that's obviously important to you.

[redqueen]

17. Good Lord but you are defensive.

I was simply asking a question.

I think it's ironic that the term is used as an insult on a thread like this.

I can't tell you why you used it... but I was curious to know.

Fucksake.

[Johonny]

16. would you date someone that was pro-rape?

I say that with full knowledge OJ had no trouble getting dates after his whole trial. The night stalker had no problem attracting women either. It's an odd society sometimes.

[redqueen]

20. I suspect that in college it's more of a date-rape thing.

The unlucky victims aren't dating someone they know is pro-rape... many end up in counseling later, blaming themselves.

Others are victims of date-rape drugs... or end up learning by experience why drinking too much at a party and expecting your 'friends' to look out for you is a very, very bad idea.

[Art_from_Ark]

29. I don't think these are "college" students

At least, not in the American sense of the word. From what I know of the Australian educational system, "college" there can refer to some types of secondary schools. So these kids might be high school students.

Not excusing their behavior-- but the younger age can help explain the high level of stupidity.

[redqueen]

36. No, the younger age cannot explain being "pro-rape"... and as for their age, from the OP:

"A GROUP of past and present University of Sydney students"

Pretty sure the University of Sydney is an actual university (college, not prep school)... and furthermore, some of these are past students... so they're not at all young.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

31. But that begs the question

Won't young women be aware of their Facebook club and now know to avoid them?

I'm sure these kids aren't bright. More than likely, the idiots think it's a "cool joke".

[redqueen]

37. The young women who saw the site before it was taken down,

sure.

Probably not a very large group.

[Johonny]

38. but all of them?

The Nightstalker was getting fan letters from women while on trial. He killed 13 people and had 11 sexual assaults. Yet someone married him after all that! For whatever reason people you would not think would ever attract another women do. Chris Brown will find another women willing to date him. Oddly despite obvious warnings some people apparently are attracted to absolutely predictable disastrous relationships. I don't get it myself.

[walldude]

18. Fucking cowards.

Not fucking man enough, or good enough to get a woman to actually like them so they come up with this shit. St Paul's college? Are they Pro-Pedophilia too?

[Odin2005]

22. That is just fucking evil.

:puke:

[Kievan Rus]

30. Likely more "men's rights" types like the ones discussed in another thread yesterday

[JonQ]

33. Yeah, mens rights is about rape

just like womens rights are about enslaving men.

Rush has "feminists = feminazis", rus has "men rights = rapists"

You two should form a club for people who stereotype and completely overreact.

[mikeSchmuckabee]

32. Maybe these scumbags just like it rough.

And are advertising for rapists to give it to them.

[JonQ]

34. That would be ironic

if they were to get raped because of this.

Wrong because rape is always wrong, but pretty funny.

[dionysus]

35. jesus christ that's vile...