So it looks like a "Kucinich-Lieberman" independent bid in 2012? Or is it ...

[HamdenRice]

Lieberman-Kucinich?

The two of them are such ego maniacs, I can't imagine how they could agree who would be on the top of the ticket.

The name of the party could be something like "Lieberman for Lieberman and Kucinich for Kucinich".

:rofl:

[Freddie Stubbs]

1. Kucinich-Paul:

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/11/exclusive_audio_kucinich_consi.html

[SIMPLYB1980]

5. Yep they have a lot in common.

That would be my bet. Wonder what the odds are in Vegas?

[rudy23]

2. Is this the new talking point you guys are reading down the list?

I've been talking about this for months---you guys are getting really obvious.

[Jim Sagle]

13. Five buck an hour DLC hogwash dispensers aren't paid enough to improvise.

;)

[HamdenRice]

15. Yeah, 'cause the only people who think Kucinich is a self-aggrandizing nut have to be paid to think

so. That's why Dennis does so well in the primaries -- because the overwhelming majority of people agree with him, except for a few trolls who are paid to point out that he's an egotistic nut who has never accomplished anything in Congress.

:rofl:

Kucinich is playing the left the way the right plays anti-abortionists. Things have to stay dire, or else Kucinich loses his issues, just as if the anti-abortionists actually got an abortion ban there would be no way to rile them up to vote.

Hence Kucinich must vote against any real improvement in our well being.

[bigtree]

3. They advocate for entirely different issues and positions

Who's politics does it serve to (dishonestly) conflate the two? Yours?

[rudy23]

6. Yes. This is the DLC strategy--try to equate us with teabaggers

in our case, for being against the corporate wing of the party. Isn't this fun? Isn't this exactly why you supported Obama in the election?

[SIMPLYB1980]

11. And you try to equate us with neo-cons.

As you would say stop acting like a tea bagger if you don't want to be called one.

[bigtree]

12. I'll admit

. . . I really didn't expect so many of the adamant supporters who expressed so many uncompromising stances during the election to fold in so neatly behind all of the half-steps, capitulations, and compromises which have characterized Democratic legislative action in the months after.

[Echo In Light]

17. Human beings are, unfortunately, and on many counts, horribly petty and predictable

... which is why Power can manipulate things so that the ant colony, so to speak, can safely be counted upon to run as Power wants it to ... although I'd have to say that this particular era of human life in this country has an astonishing tendency to actively, enthusiastically support their own degradation to a degree that I doubt one could find equal examples of throughout recorded human history.

[DJ13]

4. Great idea

Lets give the traitorous Blue Dogs a pass for trying to kill HCR, and lets attack a real liberal.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

7. No....

....one of them probably has too much principle for his own good, and the other one has absolutely no principle whatsoever.

I'll let you guess which one is which.

[Ignis]

8. Make sure you throw in a Nader dig, too.

You know, big tent, lots of blame to be spread around.

Well, spread around to everyone but DLC moderates, of course. Curious, that.

[ecstatic]

9. No. Ron Paul is Kuch's number one pick for VP

Ron Paul--who is totally against government involvement in healthcare!

[rudy23]

10. Your talking point is a major stretch.

To whomever it concerns --- it's not working.

[HamdenRice]

18. Since when are hard facts "talking point"? "Kucinich named Ron Paul as his choice running mate"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich_presidential_campaign,_2008#Polling

"Endorsements of other candidates

Kucinich named Ron Paul as his choice running mate in November, 2007.<14> "

He's an unprincipled nut.

[rudy23]

19. When 50 people rehash them at inappropriate times. That's when.

He has more principle in his little finger than 50 DLC posters have in their entire bodies. Think of all the real damage those people are doing!

[ecstatic]

21. Sorry that Kucinich's history bothers you but I'm still waiting for one of his fans

to explain that one. Let's say Kucinich won in 2008--we'd have a right wing racist/homophobic libertarian VP right now who is totally against healthcare, and who would take over in 2016. How do you reconcile that? HOW?

And I'm saying this as someone who supported Kucinich's run for president in 2003! But new facts require new thinking.

[HamdenRice]

22. Uh... no. Kucinich does not have "more principle..."

He's a political con man. Period. The Al Sharpton of the left.

The sooner you come to grips with that the better off you'll be.

[Starry Messenger]

30. Um. LOL what?

Al Sharpton is a con-man? And a rightist? Shaking my head here. If I knew how to, I'd be sending the cops over for a wellness check to your house.

[HamdenRice]

31. Al Sharpton was an FBI informant and had his campaign expenses paid by Republicans

Like Kuch he says interesting things, but when you examine the interests behind both of them and the effects of their various campaigns, they are basically con men.

[Starry Messenger]

32. Oh, I thought you might be using earth logic

silly me. :crazy:

[HamdenRice]

33. So it doesn't bother you that Sharpton's presidential campaign was paid for by Republicans

to make the Democratic primary look politically marginal?

Talk about lack of earth logic.

[Flaneur]

14. What silly shit. Yuk yuk yuk.

[rudy23]

16. No they're serious. They're trying to brand Kucinich, and us along with him.

By they, I mean the DLC-ers who post shit like this on the boards and stick out like sore thumbs among the progressives.

[HamdenRice]

23. Yeah right. Supporters of the guy who 4% of the Democratic vote are the majority

supporters of the guy who wanted Ron Paul as his running mate are the "majority" and those of us who support the Democratic Party stick out like sore thumbs.

:rofl:

:silly: :crazy: :silly:

[bobbolink]

29. Hey, if they don't want our votes, then by all means, lets oblige them.

[OHdem10]

20. Why do you give them such mention. Look, I like Kucinich but

he has not a chance > He tried once and got no showing whatever.

There are those who believe Lieberman on ticket hurt Al Gor's run
for the presidency.


Why pumpt them up to something they do not aspire.

Added: Kucinch has always marched to the tune of his own drum.
If he does not believe in something he will not support it.

[Brother Buzz]

24. The Connecticut for Lieberman Party (CFL) has already officially and legally rejected Joe

The Connecticut for Lieberman Party (CFL) rejects the fraud perpetrated on the members of this party and the citizens of Connecticut by Joe Lieberman when he used the creation of this party to get on the general election ballot in 2006. The CFL is an independent, anti-war, anti-corruption, pro-fiscal responsibility, pro-democracy party, that stands for individual liberties and real problem-solving in government. The CFL wants everyone to know that in the United States of America, voters are free to join any party they wish, and participate in the democratic process according to the laws of Connecticut and the United States.

http://ctforlieberman.blogspot.com/

Old Joe was snoozing while his party was taken over by level headed (albeit pissed off) people.

[HamdenRice]

26. ROFL! I remember that! Lierberman Party rejects Lieberman!

You can't make this stuff up!

[Sinistrous]

25. There is a sale on reality in aisle 5.

Run over and buy some. You're obviously flat out of it.

[HamdenRice]

27. Who's a crazier running mate for the Kuch? Lieberman or Ron Paul?

If he wanted Ron Paul as his running mate, then there's no reason Lieberman is out of the question.

It's Dennis UFO Kuch who needs to purchase some reality.

[Sinistrous]

28. Yep.

You're nuts.

[KharmaTrain]

34. Sheesh...

I'm thinking this place may have to be renamed Kucinich Underground. No other site that I visit has spent so much time and electrons about a vote that didn't matter. To those who idolize St. Dennis, may you find that political nirvana you all seek...find 218 more of him for the House and all will be sweetness and light. If you think anyone who looked cross-eyed or has a critical world is some "sell-out" or "DLC'er" or surely "no really a Progressive" find a place that is "pure enough" for you. Nuff said on both DK and this subject...life's too short.