How Would You Vote on the House's HCR Bill?

[Bonn1997]

I know there's been a ton of threads on the bill already but I wanted to pose a slightly different question. So, how would you vote on and feel about the bill?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

1. Kick.

[zbikerwy]

3. and no eilosi too

[Contrary1]

9. "eilosi" ?

[Bonn1997]

17. Maybe a reference to Pelosi? I have no idea either.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

18. I suspect he was working up a Pelosi/John Lennon reference but his fingers got in the way.

[valerief]

2. It's hard to answer this, because we don't get to participate in the backroom trades. nt

[Aramchek]

4. you just couldn't stand the evident support for the Bill, could ya?

[jus_the_facts]

5. AGAINST... there's no guarantee it would save lives...

...it's all a crapshoot regardless.

[Kansas Wyatt]

8. It guarantees the Insurance Industry gets to continuing extorting excess profit...

From the American People, and if they do not pay, then the American People face seizure of assets and jail time.

The Democratic Party... Bringing fascism to Health Care for Republicans to exploit at a later date. But hey, that 'foot in door' only needs fixing later, before the Republicans can make it any worse. The people who believe in this bill are fucking stupid.

[jus_the_facts]

12. Hear Hear!

:think:

[PVnRT]

6. Option B

Although, apparently, I'm supposed to jump for joy that this got passed, or it means I'm "undermining the party" or some such bullshit.

[Hawkeye-X]

7. wheres the fuck no and remove stupaks' committee assignment

And appointing him to nothing but the committee for anti abortion advocates to lick nuclear waste for life?

[Xithras]

10. This poll is a bit heartening.

I was starting to think that the majority of people here actually LIKED this albatross. It's good to see that its actual fans are a distinct minority, and that most of the supporters recognize this as a nose-plugging moment.

[Bonn1997]

14. I'm for option B. I posted this because I was curious if there were any others like me who would

vote for the bill but at the same time are deeply disappointed with the bill. It looks like that's actually the largest group (among the respondents at least).

[Bonn1997]

21. It looks like there's a plurality for option C now. Ever since I bumped up this thread, that option

has been gaining the most votes.

[inna]

11. There should be the "I'm not sure" option.

Personally, I honestly don't know how I would vote.

I'm disappointed in the bill, but I'm not convinced at this point if it represents a tiny improvement, or if it is entirely detrimental and only delays and postpones (by possibly dozens of years) the inevitable - Universal Health Care (*not* mandated insurance) for all Americans.

[chill_wind]

13. Two more polls, while we're in the mood.

What is your real opinion of the House Health Care Reform bill?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6970089

Why did Democrats resist a public option and go with a weakened version in the final bill?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6970251


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[Selatius]

15. Apparently, half of DU should be primaried if DUers were Congresscritters according to some.

I can't wait for the party purges to begin. :sarcasm:

[Bonn1997]

16. I know you're being sarcastic but I do think the *reason* a member of Congress gives is critical

The reason indicates whether we can (Kucinich) or cannot (many blue dogs) count on them when (or if) a bill with a much stronger public option ever came along.

[Xicano]

19. I vote NO!

Any bill that slaps down women like this bill does.

Any bill that forces people under threat of prison to purchase a private for profit product.

Any bill that doesn't guarantee a non conditional public option.

Any bill that has loop holes big enough to still deny treatment.

Is a bill that's a piece of shit and worth less than the paper its printed on.

[Bonn1997]

20. Do you think representatives have an obligation to stick with their party on MAJOR issues?

Maybe do their arguing during the negotiating process but then support the party? They do get many advantages from being in the party and do have the option of being Independents instead. (I'm not arguing with you so much as just raising the question since I'm really not sure.)

[Xicano]

23. I think representatives should stick to their principles on ALL issues

Then let the chips fall where they may during their next election. They should campaign on where they stand issue wise and stick to those principles they were elected on.

The representative who doesn't staunchly stand by their principles is a representative easily bribed by special interest.



Peace,
Xicano

[ShortnFiery]

22. It's a BAD Bill - check out the donut hole GRANDFATHER CLAUSES that

protects the Insurance Industry to continue on with "business as usual" while receiving MANDATORY payments from ALL Americans ... with NO Responsibility.

[derby378]

24. I'd vote against it - the House would quickly scramble to come up with a better bill

No Stupak amendment, a real public option, better controls against predatory rate hikes, etc. Obama has a deadline, after all.