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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:29 AM Original message |
Poll question: Why did Democrats resist a public option and go with a weakened version in the final bill? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. There is no public option in the house bill? That's some serious breaking news here |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. read subject line of OP--it says "weakened" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. the progressives promised to hold out for a 'robust' public option |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If you want to support a public option that will only be avaliable to 2% of all Americans |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. I guess not having any public option would be the better choice? No thanks |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. 'I'm sure it will be expended within a few years.' |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It's a shame that people cannot have compassion for |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Tell me what you need me to do to pass a public option, I'll do it |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. the 'way things are' |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I asked you a question. What do you want me to do to get the public option passed |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. The point is it will onyl work well if it is large and used by many people. You can read |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Well the CBO thinks this bill will cover 96% of the uninsured. you disagree with that? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. The public option will be priced based on "the market". Only uninsured are eligible |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. Other: Knew that a strong PO was NEVER going to come about |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. defeatism is retarded |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. One man's realism is another's "defeatism." |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. work on unrigging it or bang your head against the rigged game until they are forced to do what you |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Great theory ... have an actual plan that means more than a fart in a wind tunnel? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. so do support dictatorship, participatory democracy, or just rolling with whichever is on top at the |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. The brilliance of the illusion is, it allows us to be participatory w/o threatening corporate rule |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I agree. what do you think will work better? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. Reality isn't. It's a rigged game. And not in our favor. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Yep. It was always a scam from day 1. It was a lure to get the people off the notion of single payer |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. The Democrats genius strategy: concede half the battle BEFORE you even start negotiating |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Hence the expression comes to mind, Dime's worth of difference |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Yeah, wasn't Obama's slogan "No We Can't -- Don't Even Try"? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. All of the above - to varying degrees. |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
11. Because they knew that beaten down sheep would accept it as better than nothing. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. It's called Strategy ... and in the US, it's ASTONISHINGLY easy & predictable |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
12. this got UNrec's? can someone please balance out the trolls? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Already rec'd. Kicking. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. thanks |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Other - politics. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
24. It seems our congress views their duty as representing their contributors |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. George Carlin -"Who Really Controls America" |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. sad but true |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
28. Because Democratic Party Spinelessness is a pre-existing condition |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Institutional collusion doesn't equate to cowardice. Huge matter of intent within either of those. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
33. so we agree that our house is made up of a bunch |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
34. Corruption. |
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