Afghanistan

[Stinky The Clown]

Seems the number has been decided: 34,000.

[LWolf]

1. Get the FUCK out now. nt

[tekisui]

2. Get the fuck out.

What really amazes me is the pro-war crowd on DU. Had they said half the things about Iraq that they have for Afghanistan, they would have been banned.

And, to all the chest-thumpers, your arguments are no different nor are more just than those who defended involvement in Iraq.

This escalation is a bad bad bad decision.

[jaxx]

3. Do we know the new presidents plans?

I didn't vote, I don't have all the info needed.

[Obamanaut]

4. I hope any new plan consists of something better than throwing

personnel and money at the mountains.

[tekisui]

7. More troops.

There may be some snow job sale's pitch about a new strategy, but that 'new strategy' will involve another 30,000+ troops.

[jaxx]

8. I missed that, where is it written?

[tekisui]

9. All Afghan War Options by Obama Aides Said to Call for More Troops

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/world/asia/08troops.html

Obama leaning toward 34,000 more troops for Afghanistan

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/78516.html

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is nearing a decision to send more than 30,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan next year, but he may not announce it until after he consults with key allies and completes a trip to Asia later this month, administration and military officials have told McClatchy.

As it now stands, the administration's plan calls for sending three Army brigades from the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Ky. and the 10th Mountain Division at Fort Drum, N.Y. and a Marine brigade, for a total of as many as 23,000 additional combat and support troops.

Another 7,000 troops would man and support a new division headquarters for the international force's Regional Command (RC) South in Kandahar, the Taliban birthplace where the U.S. is due to take command in 2010. Some 4,000 additional U.S. trainers are likely to be sent as well, the officials said.

The first additional combat brigade probably would arrive in Afghanistan next March, the officials said, with the other three following at roughly three-month intervals, meaning that all the additional U.S. troops probably wouldn't be deployed until the end of next year. Army brigades number 3,500 to 5,000 soldiers; a Marine brigade has about 8,000 troops.

[bigtree]

11. if you want to pretend like the Pentagon and the WH didn't send up this trial balloon

. . . that's your choice. But it would serve the cause of a rational end to the occupation to be more responsive to these entreaties by the administration and their military leadership so that, when they make their ultimate decision, you won't be caught flat-footed and your argument late and moot.

[jaxx]

13. I don't have an argument, I'm looking for facts.

So far I see might be.

[Xenotime]

5. By now we should...

Have closed Gitmo
Have pulled all armed forces out of conflicts
Have signed universal healthcare into law
Have secured jobs for all

I don't see this administration doing it...If they can't who can?

[Mari333]

6. [phone]

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. We lost (again). Get out. Get over it. Now, it's just poltical CYA to stay.

[Individualist]

12. Out! Now!