Funny how CONs think HR 3962..

[SHRED]

...is somehow a "government takeover" of health care when it is actually a corporate welfare bill that supports and sustains those who profit off of our health.

But truly sad is how many here support it.

Is the House Health Care Bill Better than Nothing?
Marcia Angell, M.D.
Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School
Posted: November 8, 2009 08:02 PM

~SNIPPET~

What does the insurance industry get out of it? Tens of millions of new customers, courtesy of the mandate and taxpayer subsidies. And not just any kind of customer, but the youngest, healthiest customers -- those least likely to use their insurance. The bill permits insurers to charge twice as much for older people as for younger ones. So older under-65's will be more likely to go without insurance, even if they have to pay fines. That's OK with the industry, since these would be among their sickest customers. (Shouldn't age be considered a pre-existing condition?)

Insurers also won't have to cover those younger people most likely to get sick, because they will tend to use the public option (which is not an "option" at all, but a program projected to cover only 6 million uninsured Americans). So instead of the public option providing competition for the insurance industry, as originally envisioned, it's been turned into a dumping ground for a small number of people whom private insurers would rather not have to cover anyway.

If a similar bill emerges from the Senate and the reconciliation process, and is ultimately passed, what will happen?

First, health costs will continue to skyrocket, even faster than they are now, as taxpayer dollars are pumped into the private sector. The response of payers -- government and employers -- will be to shrink benefits and increase deductibles and co-payments. Yes, more people will have insurance, but it will cover less and less, and be more expensive to use.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marcia-angell-md/is-the-house-health-care_b_350190.html&cp

[Orrex]

1. If only we had pushed for a single payer bill

Then, when it failed to get enough votes to pass, we could all clasp hands and praise ourselves for being smarter than everyone in Congress.

[Ozymanithrax]

2. The difference between Health Care Bill = Communism and Health Care Bill = Corporate Wellfare..

is the bugaboo the individual believes in. Neither approach realty by the length of the Kessel run.

[emulatorloo]

3. Yes it is 'funny,' and it is very 'funny' how much $$$$ Liebermann will get from his fillibuster

from his insurance company donors.

If this is such "giveaway" to the insurance industry, why are they trying so hard to kill it?

No one seems to be able to give me a rational or logical answer to that question.

The bill isn't great, but still the insurance companies are scared of it -- they don't like the reform parts, and they understand that the Public Option can be broadened out in the future, just like Medicare was.

[orwell]

4. Stop making sense...n/t