If Men were able to get pregnant, they'd be able to get abortions in a Texaco.

[trumad]

I thought I'd reprise one of my oldie but goldies here at Du and say that there ain't no doubt in my mind that if men could get pregnant, abortion would be as common as changing the oil in your car.

Imagine if Women could dictate/mandate decisions on what men could do with their Bodies.

[BolivarianHero]

1. +1

[Are_grits_groceries]

2. And if the process used for a mammogram

had to be used on their dicks, there would have been a different method of detection yesterday.

[trumad]

3. LOL

My poor wife dreads mammograms because she is not small chested.

[Are_grits_groceries]

4. It isn't fun. nt

[spanone]

57. i'm a guy and i've had one...fun it was not...

[SmileyRose]

5. Your wife must be "blessed" with the same technician as I have.

I'm a dinky little person who has to slip on the hiking boots and double coats to top 100 pounds. But I am a little top heavy. That big sigh and rolling of the eyes because she has to go find the "supersized plates". As I was leaving I told the technician I was real sorry women kept coming in for mammograms and ruining her day and I really hoped her employer would relieve her of that burden real soon. She didn't get it, but her co-worker did and bust out laughing.

[kcass1954]

58. If there was a particular type of cancer that only men got, and the only way to

detect it was to place a protruding part of their bodies between two pieces of plexiglass and drag it into the next room, there'd be a better effing test.

[intheflow]

85. That makes me wonder:

how do they detect testicular cancer? Because I'm sure you're right, no machinery is squeezing their nuts!

[Romulox]

111. Er, trade you two mammograms for one prostate exam.

:hi:

[kcass1954]

147. Nah, your prostrate exam equals my pap smear, which I've had annually since

1970-something.

Nice try, though.

[roguevalley]

82. I will settle for them getting elephantasis in their balls.

[dflprincess]

86. Years ago my internist told me he had gone down to the mammogram machine

and put his hand in it and hearing his patients complain about it. He was surprised how much it hurt. I suppose I should have given him credit for at least trying that, but I told him it wasn't his hand I would have put in it. He thought that was funny, but the nurse nearly passed out that I would say something like that to the doctor (it was a new nurse and didn't quite get that the guy had a sense of humor and related well with his patients).

[Donnachaidh]

101. oh no kidding ROFL!

I hate those damned things. It doesn't matter what size breast you have, they always hurt.

[Romulox]

113. If the process for a prostate exam involved placing a finger up one's...

Oh wait. It does. :hi:

[Lars39]

128. Women get that, too, in their gyno exam.

:D

[JonQ]

118. Yeah I'm sure it would be as fun as a prostate exam

:eyes:

[AnneD]

6. IF MEN HAD PERIODS....

your cycle would be treated like the opening of deer season-guns going off, lots of beer.

your first cycle would be like winning the Super Bowl-everyone giving you high fives, etc.

If women mandated what men could do....just the anti crack laws would have them in the streets. :evilgrin:

[Are_grits_groceries]

7. It would be treated as

a religious holiday.

[kath]

38. From a famous piece by Gloria Steinem,

Ms. Magazine, October 1978
If Men Could Menstruate

excerpt (much more of this very quotable essay at link):
http://www.livingsexuality.com/2009/09/30/if-men-could-menstruate/

{snip}
So what would happen if suddenly, magically, men could menstruate and women could not?

Clearly, menstruation would become an enviable, boast-worthy, masculine event:
Men would brag about how long and how much. Young boys would talk about it as the envied beginning of manhood. Gifts, religious ceremonies, family dinners, and stag parties would mark the day.

To prevent monthly work loss among the powerful, Congress would fund a National Institute of Dysmenorrhea. Doctors would research little about heart attacks, from which men were hormonally protected, but everything about cramps. Sanity supplies would be federally funded and free. Of course, some men would still pay for the prestige of such commercial brands as Paul Newman Tampons, Muhammad Ali Rope-a-Dope Pads, John Wayne Maxi Pads, and Joe Namath Jock Shields – “For Those Light Bachelor Days.”

Statistical surveys would show that men did better at sports and won more Olympic medals during their periods.

Generals, right-wing politicians, and religious fundamentalists would cite menstruation (”men-struation”) as proof that only men could serve God and country in combat (”You have to give blood to take blood”), occupy high political office (”Can women be properly fierce without a monthly cycle governed by the planet Mars?”), be priests, ministers, God Himself (”He gave this blood for our sins”), or rabbis (”Without a monthly purge of impurities, women are unclean”).

Male liberals or radicals, however, would insist that women are equal, just different: and that way a woman could join their ranks if only she were willing to recognise the primacy of menstrual rights (”Everything else is a single issue”) or self-inflict a major wound every month (”You must give blood for the revolution”).

Street guys would invent slang (”He’s a three-pad man”) and “give fives” on the corner with some exchange like, “Man, you lookin’ good!” “Yeah, man, I’m on the rag!”

TV shows would treat the subject openly. (Happy Days: Richie and Potsie try to convince Fonzie that he is still “The Fonz” though he has missed two periods in a row. Hill Street Blues: The whole precinct hits the same cycle.) So would newspapers. (SUMMER SHARK SCARE THREATENS MENSTRUATING MEN. JUDGE SITES MONTHLIES IN PARDONING RAPIST.) And so would movies. (Newman and Redford in Blood Brothers!)
{snip}

[ThomCat]

65. I thought that was funny the first time I read it, years ago.

It gets more sad and depressing as social commentary every time I read it because it really says so much that is true and insightful, but not very good about society. :(

[TicketyBoo]

93. Oh, foo on that!

I vote for high fives and breaking out the champagne the first month my Aunt Flo ceases making her monthly visits!

Cause for real celebration!

[Kalyke]

135. You mean women don't celebrate their first cycle?

We did and I plan to do it with my daughter.

Takes the pressure off. ;)

[nc4bo]

8. Texaco, Jiffy Lube, Hooters..............+100. nt

[Are_grits_groceries]

9. 'Bait, Beer, and Bullet' stores. nt

[the other one]

10. If men were able to get pregnant, women would have NO rights

Your thread is the feminist version of misogynist. DUble standards.

[KittyWampus]

11. actually, it's funny because it is TRUE.

[JonQ]

127. A hypothetical situation can be declared absolutely true?

I find that unlikely.

And the basic assumption is that men always arrange everything to be safe, easy, convenient and cheap for themselves. Obviously that is not the case. Otherwise women would be sent off to die in foreign lands, perform our most dangerous jobs, be discouraged from seeking medical care for most ailments (woman up dammit!), have a much lower life expectancy and have the courts generally favor them (divorce, false accusations, lower sentences).

Also women who fail to provide all the financial support for their family, or who choose to stay home with the kids would be openly ridiculed. Rape jokes about men would be verboten, but perfectly acceptable against women, high dropout rates for women would be acceptable, for men it would be a call to national action and scholarships. And even if women represented the majority of homeless in this country we'd only really care about the homeless or unemployed men.

[annabanana]

12. This assumes that they still needed something from women to get that way.

No double standard here.

[Barack_America]

14. Let's go with the seahorse model.

Male has sperm, female has eggs, male carries the offspring.

Wow how different this world would be if it went down like that. So much of the treatment of in every culture has to do with a man knowing the child she is carrying is "his".

[annabanana]

23. I'd go for that. . . . . n/t

[havocmom]

26. Since the ability to implant fetus into males to gestate is a reality...

all anti-choice/forced birther males should be implanted with the fetuses they want to force women (who want to end a pregnancy) to carry to term.

Anti-choice/forced birther females are (for the most part) already equipped to gestate the fetuses they are so intent on 'saving'. Even the ones who have had hysterectomies can have fetuses implanted onto other blood-rich organs for gestation.

Want to lobby Congress to legislate no-choice? Fine, sign on the line and put on this hospital gown. We have a child for you to gestate and raise for the next two decades. It could be done. If they are really concerned about the lives of the fetuses, they COULD do something constructive.

Memo to forced birthers: Gestate and raise them all yourselves if you really want to end abortion. Put up or shut up time. Ain't medical science grand?

:evilgrin:

[csziggy]

116. +10000000000000000

[Skittles]

103. a man never knows that for sure

[Kalyke]

137. Ever heard of DNA testing?

Yes, he can know that for sure.

However, asking your wife to take a test would probably result in a divorce anyway. If she knows she hasn't cheated, you'd be questioning her loyalty and telling her you didn't trust her - which for quite a few people is divorce-worthy.

[AnneD]

33. I'll retract what I have said.....

the day PETA attacks a biker for wearing a leather jacket like they threw paint at ladies wearing fur coats.

Do I agree with wearing fur coats...HELL NO, but I couldn't help but notice PETA folks never had the balls to do the same shit to bikers. Talk about your DUble standards. They targeted women because they could get away with it PERIOD END OF STORY.

[DemBones DemBones]

51. Oh, yeah, I'd love to see PETA attack bikers wearing leather.

What a hoot that would be.

[rd_kent]

66. Its called "misandry".......

the opposite of misogyny.

[Burma Jones]

13. If men were able to get pregnant

They'd be women......

[Barack_America]

15. Not necessarily true. Sex is determined by the gametes one carries.

It depends more on how the pregnancy occurred.

[InkAddict]

24. Like this one....

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=6244878&page=1

Thomas Beatie, the controversial "pregnant man" who gave birth to a daughter earlier this year, reveals to Barbara Walters in an exclusive interview that he is pregnant again with his second child.

[Barack_America]

25. You're right, I should have noted "biologic sex".

Apologies.

[Vinca]

16. If men could get pregnant there would be cheap abortions

done at Walmart by insourced, foreign doctors. No appointment needed.

[trumad]

17. Heck---we would have alreay invented an at home procedure...

[Dulcinea]

106. There would be drive-thru abortion clinics!

No need to even get out of the car!

[PHIMG]

18. Studies show prohibition does not reduce abortion; just kills women.

Anti-choice = ANTI-LIFE (of women)

of course the anti-choice crowd knows this. they being the same people who kill doctors and/or excuse those who do the same.

[Stinky The Clown]

19. K&R

[bpcmxr]

20. Amen. Hell, if men were able to get pregnant,

abortion would be a sacrament.

[Xenotime]

30. HA! Exactly!

[maxrandb]

34. And tax-deductable as well!! n/t

[TicketyBoo]

96. Isn't abortion

tax deductible now? If it's medically necessary, then it should be deductible.

[Kalyke]

138. Thank you, Gloria Steinem.

She was the first to say that, wasn't she?

[LeftHander]

21. "You can trust your scar to the man who wears the star...."...nt

[Hepburn]

22. A-fucking-men!

Government ~~ OUT OF MY WOMB!

[liquid diamond]

99. Are you one of those that want abortions paid for by federal

dollars?

[eShirl]

27. The "morning after" pill would be an over-the-counter medicine, and come free w/ condoms & viagra.

[ThoughtCriminal]

28. No. Texaco would charge too much

they would be free.

[Jester Messiah]

29. If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament. [nt]

[Bonobo]

36. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" nt

[hfojvt]

31. and if men had to fight in wars or work in coal mines

then that would be totally fun too and completely harmless, because this world run by men always arranges it so that nothing bad happens to any man - ever. At least it used to be in the 1970s before Steinem ruined everything for us guys.

[Romulox]

32. You win the thread. nt

[Agony]

87. Hardly. Men can and do walk away from both war and coal mines. Women can't just

walk away from a pregnancy. Lousy analogy.

[JonQ]

112. They can avoid getting pregnant

except in cases of rape or divine intervention women do have a choice.

[csziggy]

120. They can reduce their chances of getting pregnant - not totally avoid it

Unless women have no sex at all, there is no 100% effective way of preventing pregnancy.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/birth-control-effectiveness-chart-22710.htm

Even tubal ligation (the choice I made because other birth control methods were medically inappropriate for me and not effective) has been known to "reverse" itself. About twenty years after I had my tubes tied, the media announced cases of women who became pregnant after decades of believing they were free from that worry for the rest of their lives. Think of the nightmare of that - someone who did not want a child when they were in their twenties finding themselves pregnant in their forties or fifties. Most had thought they were going through menopause and did not realize they were pregnant until late in the pregnancy.

Just look at the chart. The BEST methods of pregnancy prevention (other than total abstinence) mean that for every one hundred women who do not want to get pregnant end up pregnant. That is thousands of unwanted pregnancies.

Do you think those women should be forced to continue to suffer for the failure of their best efforts to get pregnant?

[JonQ]

125. On another thread

I was informed that it is acceptable that men bear 100% of the financial burden of having a child, while having no say in the ultimate decision, because if men didn't want to have a kid they could just keep their pants zipped. As contraceptives on the male side of things are likewise not 100% effective I was just applying the same logic. If a women doesn't want to have a kid she should keep her pants zipped.

"Do you think those women should be forced to continue to suffer for the failure of their best efforts to get pregnant?"

If a man makes every effort to avoid impregnating his girlfriend (short of abstinence) should he be forced to pay for the child for 18 years even if he did not want it in the first place (and was willing to split the abortion costs)?

[Kalyke]

140. Sorry - but biology dictates this is so.

The woman has the burden of carrying the child, thus, she makes the final decision.

It's not that men don't have some input, it's that biology prevents them from having the final say.

Not much you can do about that.

And no one said men bear 100 percent of the financial burden. In most states, child support for one child is between 20 and 30 percent. That's hardly 100 percent. It's not even half.

[JonQ]

141. So then it is ok in some instances

to discriminate based on gender?

Both people agreed to have sex right (for consensual sex, rape is another issue)? So the "blame" for producing a child is split 50/50. But the decision to have the child is 100% the womans, and the burden for paying for a kid he never wanted is forced on the man by the court system (assuming he did not want the child and she did).

And I think that if I were to say that women tend to make less, at least in part because they take more time out for maternity leave then men, and that's fair because biology dictates this is so, I think a few people would have problems with that.

[hfojvt]

124. no, it was the OP that was a lousy analogy

it claimed "if this (presumably) unpleasant thing happened to guys, the world would be arranged to make it not (or less) unpleasant". So why shouldn't that be true of all other unpleasant things like being shot at, working in coal mines and on roofs, etc., etc. It seems pretty obvious to me that some pretty unpleasant things happen to some people and that a Y chromosome does not stop an excrement storm from raining down on one's life.

[AnneD]

37. For many years women did things that were classified as men's work...

they just weren't paid or classified. Women worked as Nurses in wars for centuries before there was a defined front and there hasn't been a defined battle front since WWI. They face the same hazards, they just didn't use a gun as often as the men. Hell, even Florence Nightingale, the founder of Nursing, was considered to suffer from PTSD from her experiences in the Crimean War. She and her cadre of Nurses never got paid as far as I know (they did have to beg for supplies)-and God knows how many lives they saved just making the Docs and Surgeons wash their hands before preforming surgery and examining wounds. In fact the wounds healed better when the Nurses took care of the patients.

Talk to the hand, bud, or at least read some herstory instead of history......

[DavidDvorkin]

39. I wish I could recommend individual posts

I'd be recommending yours.

[Name removed]

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[BoneDaddy]

42. No

but if a thread was started about women or any other group the way you do about men in here you would be up in arms. The hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so blatantly ignorant and childish in it's expression.

This men=bad, women=good kindergarten logic is one of my biggest complaints about this board and people who claim to be enlightened. Sadly, it is just the opposite.

[Yupster]

88. If men could get pregnant

they'd be insulted and laughed at on DU because everyone knows that men are bad.

[Romulox]

43. Umm, do you really believe the post is meant to be taken at face value?

:shrug: :hi:

[abq e streeter]

52. didn't get the memo eh? any man that disagrees with any woman on gender related issues

is an asshole and a freeper.

[trumad]

63. Oh eee vay

Are you stupid or pretending to be stupid?

[abq e streeter]

72. and yet another intelligent comment---is this really the best you can come up with

once again, I'll try to come to down to your level: oh yeah, I've seen your posts; it obviously is your best. Rather pathetic...

[BoneDaddy]

149. That is pretty much the unwritten but openly accepted rule

on this board by a percentage of women who are so irrational in their opinions of men that they are laughable.

[Bonobo]

45. Make sure you touch all the bases. nt

[Darth_Kitten]

80. She ruined it for you guys in the 80's and 90's as well.

Let's not forget.

[Sparkly]

107. .

:nopity:

[JonQ]

110. +1

Lot of hate on this thread.

A similiar one encouraging people to come out and negatively stereotype the hypothetical actions of women would be shut down immediately.

Like if women were in charge we'd have a world war ever month.

[kath]

121. " before Steinem ruined everything for us guys".

Just had to see that again - what a wonderfully insightful statement.
Jeebus H. Christ.

[hfojvt]

122. insightful?

It was meant to be funny. It's completely ridiculous, just like the OP and like the rest of my post. The notion that "because men are in charge, all men have an easy life, the world revolves around their needs and desires" is just really, really stupid if one looks at what really happens in the world.

[JetCityLiberal]

145. the OP is not ridiculous. Your posts are

keep telling yourself they are not idiotic maybe you will believe it.

Those of us with a brain know your posts for the stupidity they show.

The OP is spot on, you can't handle it. What a surprise from you....not.


Paul

[hfojvt]

148. I said my post was ridiculous

as it was meant to be, to lampoon a ridiculous OP.

Paul if you have all of this brain, maybe you could take a crack at explaining why you think the OP is spot on. Please note that a string of insults does not make an explanation or a proof, but I think you might have known that.

Do you understand why I think the OP is ridiculous? Because men get shot at and killed in wars. Men work in unpleasant jobs, like coal mines and up on hot roofs, and on trash trucks in the rain and heat and cold, in foundries and meat packing plants, etc., etc. That is simply reality. Not for all men, but for lots and lots of them. Yes, sometimes there are women working in the same hot and noisy factories, but the OP is suggesting that "the male dominated world always takes care of men". I can handle that all day. Usually with this :rofl: but sometimes with this :spray: or this :eyes: Other times with actual statistics of men living in poverty or victims of violence.

[dugaresa]

150. Oh women we have it easy in war time!

Shot at, raped, and watch our children starve. It's lovely.

Nothing more fun for women than a war zone!

[October]

155. Needed to be said.

Really.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

35. And, the Stupak Amendment would have been strangled in it's crib.

[ronnykmarshall]

41. Would you like to put that on your Texaco card, sir?

[kenny blankenship]

44. from a coin operated dispenser in the men's room?

yep. probably true.

[lumberjack_jeff]

46. "Imagine if Women could dictate/mandate decisions on what men could do with their Bodies."

I'm pretty sure any man who has experienced divorce court and the support enforcement bureaucracy need not exercise too much imagination.

[H2O Man]

48. Even happi;y married men

are open to certain dictates from their wives.

[abq e streeter]

50. yup--two jobs for you for the next 18 years even if it kills you. tough shit, buddy

oh yeah, and you don't get to keep the money from the 2 jobs either.

[trumad]

64. Whaaaaa----Whaaaaaa

Poor little man...

[abq e streeter]

70. love your well expressed , intelligent response...

here's mine so I can drop down to your level :rofl:

[Yupster]

89. This is DU at its worst

Substitute any other group for men for any reason and you'd have an uproar.

Whaaaaa -- Whaaaaa -- Poor little Muslims.

Whaaaa - Whaaaa -- Poor little gays.

Whaaaa - Whaaaa -- Poor little women.

It's inconceivable that anyone would post something like the examples I've posted, but for men, heck -- any insult or belittlement is fair game here at DU.

And I don't even think most people see how bad they are.

[abq e streeter]

94. Agree with everything you said, and I'm rather ashamed to have found it necessary

to lower myself to basically hurling insults back at these people, but you don't try to reason with Glenn Beck followers either. And the response you received prior to this one certainly proves your point too. Funny, I'd never noticed how all the men that are homeless,or working in sewers, or streets in 100 degree or below zero weather,working in mines,doing soul-killing, mind numbing factory work ( if they can even still get it), slaving away at minimum wage jobs desperately trying to house and feed their families, and millions of other men in similar situations, are actually at the "top of the power hierarchy". Who knew?.......... My sincere apologies to you for allowing myself to have gotten suckered into participating in lowering the level of discourse here. It IS DU at its worst, and I can't believe I lowered my dignity and participated in it. But as you did, sometimes you just have to call bullshit when it's staring you in the face. Edited to add: and ironically considering the insults thrown my way, I DO agree with all those here that are absolutely furious and disgusted at the sellout of women in this health reform bill. I absolutely support 100% a woman's right to choose, and it's sickening to me that our party allowed the fundies and their allies to put the non-coverage of abortions in this bill.

[Name removed]

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[abq e streeter]

134. wow-stalked all over the thread--I'm flattered, although I do feel sorry for you

that you have absolutely nothing better to do, and yet do it so poorly. And speaking of pathetic whiners needing to grow a pair, I suggest a look in the mirror. Again,in a way, I'm embarrassed at lowering myself to your level, but I'm actually sort of enjoying it. The fact that you're not embarrassed to be responding to valid arguments and opinions with anything but schoolyard level insults reminds me of ..um... oh yeah, republicans. ( and especially against someone who actually AGREES with you about this health bill's despicable sellout of women) and is certainly illuminating as to your level of intellect ( or more accurately lack thereof). Your rage and obsession is a bit troubling and I sincerely hope ( and I'm actually being dead serious here) you are getting ( or plan on getting) help in dealing with it. With some scorn, and yet an increasing measure of genuine pity , abq e streeter.

[JonQ]

117. Yep, flip this post around

and you have see a lot of tombstones.

[kath]

92. That's right - it's SOOOOO hard being at the top of the power hierarchy

[ThomCat]

73. Whine much?

While there is injustice on both sides, the overall numbers show that it is still WOMEN who mostly end up with the lower standard of living after a divorce, not most men. It is Women who are mostly forced into poverty by divorce, not men. It is women who are more likely to lose more in a divorce, not men.

It is men who are more likely to be in a position to hide assets after a divorce.

It is men who are most likely to entirely walk away and leave the women with responsibility for the children, the debts associated with raising them, and the home for them.

In some cases women get court settlements that favor them, and the men scream that the court hates men, ignoring the broad biases that still totally go the other way. Often, even when men come out even or ahead in court settlements, more and more we see some men complaining that the courts hate men because men did not totally prevail.

The attitude seems to be that men who want to walk away scott-free they should be able to, or else the courts hate men. And men who want custody should get custody automatically, regardless of anyone else's consideration of what is best for the children, or the courts hate men. After all, the guy decided that he should get the kids, and only his opinion really matters. :eyes:

I'm a guy. My family was divided up by the courts, twice. Like most people, I know many, many people who have been through the court and endured this, either as a parents or as a kid. I have witnessed blatant sexism that was mind-blowingly offensive. I've never seen a guy get screwed. I have never seen the court be openly hostile to a man the way I've seen it be openly hostile to some women. I have only heard that it supposedly happens "all the time."

[abq e streeter]

74. No actually, I don't whine much, but thanks for asking!

:hi:

[TicketyBoo]

98. I have always said

that the only ones who come out ahead in a divorce are the attorneys.

It's my advice to husbands and wives who are having problems to sit down, look each other in the eyes, and say that to one another. "The only ones who come out ahead in a divorce are the attorneys."

Then try to work out whatever your problems are. I think there would be a lot fewer divorces.

We read stories to our kids about "happier ever after," and they grow up actually expecting that. If the marriage doesn't live up to that, well, get a divorce, and the next marriage will be perfect. The truth is, there is no perfect marriage (at least, none that I know of). Any marriage requires work, kindness, and forgiveness that the other person isn't perfect, because no one is.

I'm not naive; I know that some divorces are necessary. But, in my opinion, too many people give up on their marriages too soon.

[LanternWaste]

126. Not ever having been divorced, I'm a bit curious...

Not ever having been divorced, I'm a bit curious-- what are the precise and relevant strictures and enforcements divorce courts have over a man's body?

[lumberjack_jeff]

143. A commercial fisherman who gets divorced...

is obliged to remain in the worlds most dangerous profession to support the kids.

For instance.

[LanternWaste]

152. Laws prevent him from changing profession?

Laws prevent him from changing profession?

[NoPasaran]

47. I don't even want to have to pee in a Texaco

Damned if I'd get an abortion there.

[DemBones DemBones]

49. Or any other gas station. Yuk.

[valerief]

54. LOL!!!

:rofl:

[valerief]

53. If men could get pregnant, they'd get govt funded childcare. nt

[Ilsa]

78. +1. nt

[JVS]

55. Jesus! Who would buy an abortion from a place where you don't even trust the hot dogs?

[JVS]

56. Ok, I've thought this over and I've decided that the abortion situation would be even worse.

Men traditionally avoid doctors, and also are into the whole do it yourself thing. I think it would devolve into something akin to oil changes. Some men would get the abortions, but their buddies would mock them for taking the easy way out instead of doing it themselves at home. Many men would try to do it themselves and harm themselves severely in the process. And then like is done concerning a lot of chores, some men would procrastinate to the point where they never do get around to getting the abortion and end up bearing the child.

[Bunny]

129. I see guys getting together with some beer and making a Saturday afternoon of it.

They'd meet at the pregnant guy's house, start brainstorming DIY abortion techniques, the beer would be flowing and the next thing you know they'd all be outside constructing a trebuchet or something. Eventually they'd figure it out and the mission would be accomplished, although it probably wouldn't be pretty.

[Richardo]

131. A trebuchet!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You kill me, Bunny! :loveya:

[Bunny]

132. You *KNOW* that's what they'd do! Or else they'd blow something up.

Men get up to the funniest things when they're problem-solving. :D

:hi: Richardo! :loveya:

[Richardo]

133. It's like you were raised around a bunch of boys ...

...you know us too well :scared: ;)

[Bunny]

136. I have five brothers. They did a lot of weird stuff in the backyard!

;)

[marlakay]

59. Notice viagra is always covered nt

[ncteechur]

68. not by my ins

[JonQ]

142. No it isn't

and viagra is not the same as abortion. No one seems morally opposed to it.

If they were to create a pill to treat sexual dysfunction in women and that was not covered then I would say that is a valid complaint. But you're comparing two different things.

[ldf]

60. this could quuckly be addressed, if:

women turned off the sex faucet until choice was no longer considered a right that was negotiable, (yes, women do have control... forced sex is RAPE)

AND

every woman giving birth HAs to give the name of the father, with a dna test followup, (privacy issues? bullshit.)

AND

afore mentioned dna proven father of said child is REQUIRED to submit financial support until age of majority, no outs, (no childsupport = jailtime)

AND

sex education is madatory and birth control is available to everyone (no ones' religion should be forced on another, and refusing to educate and inform about human biology is NOT a religion).

this whole issue is such a farce, the hypocrisy it knows no bounds.

[itsrobert]

61. Women are over 50 percent of the population

Maybe you should start pointing fingers at your fellow gender? Plenty of women voting for the Stupak amendment.

[Darth_Kitten]

81. And that makes it right?

n/t

[Katya Mullethov]

62. If we could get pregnant we would do it ourselves .

fuckin duh

[arthritisR_US]

67. you are dead on IMHO! n/t

[Bonobo]

69. Gender war porn. nt

[The Straight Story]

71. It all boils down to - your body, your choice - unless someone on the left/right deems otherwise (nt

[NoUsername]

75. I see it a bit differently.

I'm guessing they would get private suites in a hospital, one week minimum hospital stay, and six weeks of paid time off from work. It would be mandatory that insurance cover the abortion and/or it be paid for by taxpayer dollars. Abortion protesters would cuffed and hauled off to jail with a minimum one-year sentence for "attempting to interfere with a medical procedure, thereby threatening the health and welfare of the patient."

Hmmm...that last part might not be a bad idea.

[ddeclue]

76. Then they'd be out of luck too since Texaco got bought by British Petroleum...

:rofl:

[Capn Sunshine]

77. Texaco? Are you kidding? THEY WOULD FUCKING DELIVER!!

Same day service. With frequent flyer cards

[Ilsa]

79. If Men were able to get pregnant, there'd be giftcards for abortion services.

"...abortion would be a sacrament."

[David Zephyr]

83. K&R.

Thanks.

[earth mom]

84. Yep and along with a free car wash while you wait.

:rofl:

[HughMoran]

90. So true

Men are ass holes.

[athenasatanjesus]

91. Total BS!!!!

While im pro legalized abortion it's one of the few issues I can understand conservatives on and claiming it has anything at all to do with sexism of any sort is absurd.
Both sides of the abortion debate are manipulated by self interested people to slow down political discourse and for other reasons,and both sides have people with valid reasons to support it.

[Capn Sunshine]

97. welcome to DU!

Care for Pizza?

[abq e streeter]

100. welcome too

and by the way, the cryptic "care for pizza" from the other reply, refers, I assume, to their prediction that you'll be"tombstoned" shortly for the apparently unforgivable crime of being able to understand two sides to an issue. I can't tell if that other reply is saying that they think their prediction that you'll soon be banned from posting here is a good thing or if they're just warning you that that's how things sometimes are here. I'm sure the majority of people here would toss you out in a second.It's not enough to say you're pro-choice, which you basically did. You've committed the high crime of seeing the other's point of view, and the even greater crime of thinking that what would seem like an honest philosophical/metaphysical/spiritual opposition to abortion could be due to anything but hating women . Welcome and good luck.

[Capn Sunshine]

153. OMG I read the reply wrong

So, thanks for sticking up for the poor guy. Mea Culpa

[abq e streeter]

154. no problem, cap'n; like I'd said, I thought it might be a genuinely concerned warning to him anyway

and a valid one... I myself was told ( among other pleasantries) to ( and I quote) : "shut the fuck up" for daring to disagree with the OP ...

[LostInAnomie]

95. Are men the only people opposed to abortion?

[Romulox]

109. No, but slogans are more fun than critical thought. nt

[Skittles]

102. they certainly would never have more than one baby

[comtec]

104. self-delete

...

[Greybnk48]

108. The first time I saw this I almost lost it I laughed so hard!

This is definitely an oldie but a goodie that should be posted periodically since it is sooooo true.

[Romulox]

114. Men would take responsibility for the issue themselves.

Rather than demand someone else do something. :shrug:

[JonQ]

115. If men were the ones getting pregnant

then it seems likely women would be the ones getting drafted and killed in large numbers, performing societies most dangerous and physically strenuous jobs and generally dying younger and in worse health. Also they would be expected to be the primary bread winner, and be obligated to pay child support even on children they didn't want, which they would still lose the majority of times in divorces. Oh and of course the decision to have a child would be completely out of their hands. 100% of the financial burden once the courts get involved, 0% of the choice.


Hurray!

[Darth_Kitten]

151. Cry me a river.

"then it seems likely women would be the ones getting drafted and killed in large numbers, performing societies most dangerous and physically strenuous jobs and generally dying younger and in worse health. Also they would be expected to be the primary bread winner, and be obligated to pay child support even on children they didn't want, which they would still lose the majority of times in divorces. Oh and of course the decision to have a child would be completely out of their hands. 100% of the financial burden once the courts get involved, 0% of the choice.


Hurray! "

Right, because women and children are NEVER killed in wars, women never do dangerous and physically strenous jobs (just look at how heart disease in women is totally ignored). Oh, and all those women doing most if not ALL of the childcare, or all those women raising their kids with little to NO, and I mean NO support whatsoever from the so-called fathers.

100 financial burden once the courts get involved? Oh, please, give me a break. :eyes:

[Mixopterus]

119. If men were in charge...

They wouldn't have large contests in which they murder and mutilate each other with increasingly sophisticated forms of weaponry! And all men would be rich and not live in poverty ever -oh wait.

Sex war issues are bullshit, some of you supposedly gentle and enlightened women are about on the same level as men swilling beer and talking about how women need to know their place.

It's always been about class structure, people, there have been loads of women in power that act just as bad as men.

[JNelson6563]

123. Too late to rec!

[upi402]

130. MODS, LOCK THIS SEXIST THREAD!

[JonQ]

144. Are you kidding?

This is perfectly acceptable. It's a double standard that benefits women, so that is a good double standard.

One critiquing the way things would be if women were in charge (negatively) would have immediately been shut down, but this will stay up.

I'm kind of glad though, it will be valuable evidence showing that women are just as sexist as men and do little if anything to reign in inappropriate sexist comments.

[Autumn]

139. They would make pregnancy into a sport,

and abortion would be a 20 yard penalty.

[JetCityLiberal]

146. Kick, too late to rec. trumad gets it.

Some of these replies here are hilarious...but you get it trumad.

Paul