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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:04 AM
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SPD cop killer called "lone domestic terrorist"
if it turns out this is the same guy who firebombed the SPD cops and left a threatening message, then that's a definite yes. Just for clarification, this not a christian terrorist wacko or muslim terrorist wacko etc. no evidence religion played any part whatsoever. at the cop car firebombing incident, the perp made it known that he was retaliating for the videotaped cop assault on a female arrestee in the holding cell that made national news (fwiw, i think that was clearly excessive force and said so from the start). not sure what else triggered this guy, but this guy appears to have flown completely under the radar prior to this, in terms of lack of criminal activity, etc.



http://www.komonews.com/news/local/69535962.html

TUKWILA, Wash. - Reality is beginning to sink in for residents at a Tukwila apartment complex who now know they had been living only feet away from the man suspected of killing a Seattle police officer in cold blood. The realization is especially chilling to Marlese Ruscoe, who lived in the unit right below Christopher Monfort's with her 10-month-old baby. She says her emotions overcame her when she found out she had been living only a few feet away from an arsenal of bomb-making materials, weapons and ammo capable of causing tremendous damage...

Investigators who later searched his apartment found weapons, a huge stash of ammunition, bomb-making materials and newspaper clippings about an Oct. 22 arson that officers believe he was involved in. Among the weapons were two long rifles, including a military-style assault rifle, Pugel said at a Saturday afternoon news conference about the case. Components for improvised explosive devices were also found. "This man, from everything we can tell, appears to be a lone domestic terrorist," Pugel said Saturday. "At this moment, we cannot find any ties to anyone else."
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:11 AM
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1. This guy is not a terrorist. This just another guy with an axe to grind against
someone who pissed him off.
Cops are no different then anyone else when it comes to pissing people off, they should expect retribution.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:16 AM
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2. you fail to understand what terrorist means
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 03:17 AM by paulsby
if this is the guy who firebombed police cars, and left a threat, that is making a political statement via terroristic acts, and under almost ANY definition is terrorism.

if this was an anti-abortion wacko who firebombed a planned parenthood, left notes threatening them for "killing babies" and then later killed an abortion doctor, and whose apartment was an arsenal to include ied's, he would also be a terrorist

the firebombing incident is the key. that is a PERFECT example of a terrorist act

just because this terrorists motivation was (apparently) police brutality, doesn't change whether he is a terrorist or not

his actions, intentions, and political messaging of his acts CLEARLY make it terrorism

hth
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:23 AM
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3. Political? Hardly. This guy is not a terrorist, niether is a guy who bombs clinics.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:24 AM
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4. well, at least that is intellectually consistent
i can respect that. it's such a rarity here :)

if you don't consider those terrorism, then i can see why you don't consider this guy a terrorist.

i can respcet that. it's intellectually consistent, and merely a disagreement on the definition of the word "terrorism", which is a boring wanking argument and not really relevant to the underlying evil acts we are discussing

cheers
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:22 AM
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6. why would you frequent a site that you have such little respect for?
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 02:54 PM
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7. i think most people
on the internet in political discussions will lack intellectual honesty. iow, if they are demonstrated wrong, they won't admit it

they simply can't say "i was wrong"

i don't think i've seen ANY political sight where this exists.

imo, it is more a function of how politically active people think (or don't think) and at least as much a function of the internet where normal rules of civil conversation don't apply
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 05:15 AM
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5. No, I think clinic bombers ARE terrorists, making a statement, terrorizing patients and doctors...
...throughout the country.

Seems like a political statement and motive to me.
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