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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:46 PM Original message |
Why Eric Massa voted against the health care bill |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. Can't blame them - don't know if I could've voted for it either, for the same reason. nt |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. But there are no Massa - bashing threads... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. because DK is an easier target. Massa is making some noise though and will surely face some ire here |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. I say let's put him in a debate with, say, Alan Grayson and see who's more convincing. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. Massa is full of shit. He voted against it because he's from a very Republican part of upstate NY. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You're pulling that out of your ass |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. How clownishly civil of you. nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. But I'm not |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Massa is a strong supporter of single-payer |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Yes, I've seen him on The Ed Show but he's also a very wily ex-Republican from a red district. nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Bullshit. He spent the summer telling his district they were wrong... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Of course he did, because he's smart enough to play both ends against the middle. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Do you really think that's going to stop the Republicans? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Exactly, the rest of his comments prove that |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. "Both sides against the middle." That's right. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. DeFazio does it too |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Yes, I faintly recall DeFazio's doubletalk. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Massa is from a district won by McCain and has been walking on eggshells |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Massa is also a member of the Progressive Caucus and wants to withdraw from Afghanistan |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. He's still walking on eggshells. n/t |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. he's a single-payer advocate |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. He campaigned against the House bill because it raised the deficit |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. So he must be one of those stealth republican single-payer advocates, right? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Kucinich's amendment had 13 Republican votes. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Holy Shit |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I'm sure those conservatives loved THIS appeal to them from Rep. Massa |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. To my knowledge, upstate NY conservatives don't read HuffPo, as Massa well knows. nt |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I'm pretty sure his General Election opponent |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. His expected GOP opponent wanted the House bill defeated and Massa has obliged him. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. The comment was about Afghanistan and Huffington Post |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Um, I know. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. So what you are saying |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. that's pretty weak |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. No, it's very clever on Massa's part. nt |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. heh |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I knew Massa before he ever decided to run for office and contributed to his first failed campaign. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. that doesn't make any sense at all |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It does to me (and to other people on this thread who are known for their sensibility). |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Why is that hard? The right has taken to criticizing Obama on Afghanistan. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I fondly remember watching Dick Cheney |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I know you're waiting for the implosion, |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:09 PM Original message |
I'm not waiting for anything |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Don't be foolish |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. It doesn't have to be out of Afghanistan, it will be whatever spin they need to use. n/t |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. like your appeal and effort here? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I thought all was well now in upper NY after the special election |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You thought wrong. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No, |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. He's so right and so is Dennis. That's why I can't understand all the |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. If we all work at it hard enough, maybe we can turn this unmistakably clear statement... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. +1 |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. What about these statements |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. It's pretty words calculated to appease the left while his vote satisfies his district's voters... |
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