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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:07 PM
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If Lieberman thinks that the Ft Hood killer was a terrorist...
Then EVERYONE whoever goes postal is a terrorist.

Just trying to be fair
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM
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1. Remember when Lieberman said he " wants a probe into 'terrorist attack' by Scott Roeder in Kansas"?
Me neither.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:18 PM
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2. LIEberman does not have a principled cell in his body.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 06:19 PM by BrklynLiberal
I find him more reprehensible that the repukes because he wants to have his cake and eat it too...call himself a Democrat to reap the benefits, but vote like a repuke. There is NO DOUBT in my mind, if Obama had not won, and we had a repuke president, that little piece of crap would have switched parties in a heartbeat.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:18 PM
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4. HE HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY FOX
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 09:22 PM
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11. He isn't a Dem any more. He calls himself an Independent caucusing with Dems. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:33 AM
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12. You are correct. I guess I meant that he is reaping the benefits of a Democratic Majority
without actually being a part of it. Why the hell should that piece of crap have a committee chairmanship? He is doing, has done and will continue to do nothing to deserve it.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:26 PM
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3.  "At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials
because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

Investigators had not determined for certain whether Hasan was the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/fort-hood-shoo...

A former classmate has said Hasan was a "vociferous opponent of the war" and "viewed the war against terror" as a "war against Islam." Dr. Val Finnell, who attended a master's in public health program in 2007-2008 at Uniformed Services University with Hasan, said he told classmates he was
"a Muslim first and an American second."

"In retrospect, I'm not surprised he did it," Finnell said. "I had real questions about what his priorities were, what his beliefs were."

http://news.aol.com/article/soldiers-open-fire-at-fort-...

"The system is not doing what it's supposed to do," said Dr. Val Finnell, who complained to administrators at a military university about what he considered Hasan's "anti-American" rants. "He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out."

http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/articl...

I think Lieberman is a douchebag weasel.
I also think that Hasan was a terrorist. All the facts aren't in, but enough has surfaced for me to draw a preliminary conclusion. If things change, then I will decide otherwise.

Just for clarification, the guy in Orlando went 'postal'. Hasan was something else, it appears.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:28 PM
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5. combo thing
Postal/political

I'm not sure if we call it terrorism unless there is a plot, though. Some countries do, but I thought we (USA) didn't if it is the act of a single person.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:30 PM
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7. I'm really not getting why that whole thing is an issue.
Hasan compared suicide bombers to people who kill themselves for their causes- soldiers jumping on live grenades, kamikaze pilots, etc.

And?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:28 PM
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6. Lieberman is a crazy right wing bigot.
Fuck him.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:47 PM
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8. In Lieberman's case, it's probably Israel-related
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 07:47 PM by starroute
Right now, there's more pressure than there's been in a while for the US to back off from its unquestioning support of right-wing Israeli obstructionism. One of the tried-and-true tactics when that happens is to attempt to convince Americans that they themselves are threatened by Islamic terrorism and therefore need to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Israel.

Beyond that, I really think we'll get further with a phenomenological approach to these sorts of incidents than a belief-based approach. If someone goes postal and shoots up their co-workers, it doesn't matter all that much which particular warped belief system they used to justify mass murder.

So if Lieberman really wants us to study how this could have been averted, we need to look at the entire pattern of stressed-out service members making intemperate statements and all the other possible warning signs. But I suspect the right wouldn't like what the military finds if it really were to do that.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:50 PM
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9. A lone mass murderer only needs two things:
Weapons and the justification to kill in his mind

The tools may vary

And I agree with you 1000%
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:53 PM
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10. +1
:applause:
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