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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:51 PM Original message |
Will I go to jail if I don't buy health insurance? No. |
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greennina (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. The fact that they made it a possible punishment... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Nobody is Forcing you to buy private insurance. Go for the public option. |
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greennina (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Require understanding a complicated flowchart to stay out of prison... |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Complicated?! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. LOL. I don't think it will be a zero tolerance, screw up-go to prison kinda deal. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Complicated? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. I found it quite simple. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I believe that the flow chart you are posting is from back in August. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. True, August, DU moderator, pinto, posted it earlier today. |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. ~97% of people won't be elegible for the public option |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. 97% of people are NOT currently offered health insurance from their employer. |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. It's not wrong. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. And that number is based merely on a GUESS that most of those eligible |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I am looking for the 27 page summary. i can only fidn the link to the 1900 pages. |
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JustinL (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. the fact is wrong because it isn't true |
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bikingaz (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. no jail for non tax payment? seriously who are you kidding? |
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JustinL (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Over 8,000,000 people currently owe the IRS. Only 2000 per year are sentencted to prison. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. So it's a tax now? Oy... not the best line of argument. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. Obama himself said that this is not a tax. Ergo, any jail time is for failure to buy insurance. |
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TheGunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. That's why the text of HR 3962 says a 2.5% TAX will be levied for failure to comply? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Oh, it is indeed a tax, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. Disingenuous in the extreme. Oh, you won't be dragged in to a cell for not buying |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. +1 |
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Hun Joro (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Thank you! You nailed it. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Bingo! You should post a thread explaining it in exactly this way! nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
46. Unbelievable, they really do believe |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. Up to a $250,000 fine and five years in prison. fuck that. I'm not paying the tax. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. and taxpayers will pay $40,000/year to keep the scofflaw in custody |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. Right. And they wouldn't prosecute med marijuana users would they? |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. Passing on the cost to others? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Thank you for pointing out an aspect rarely mentioned. n/t |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It's a rw talking point that is now repeated by self-described "centrists" nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Excuse me? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Like I've said before.. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. But under the new system you'd be insured |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 05:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Exactly, that was the first thing that struck me. The fantasy |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. The left repeats right wing talking points |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. keep applying that lipstick |
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ProleNoMore (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. Are You Sure? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Poor old me is 'imposing' a cost on folks who can afford insurance? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. If you go to prison you will get health coverage. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. People in jail are at least covered |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
38. It's Ass-Backwards |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Same feelings here. n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Ah yes, but the idea is not for everyone to have health care, it is to appear to want everyone to |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
43. Sorry, can't rec the lies and bullshit the health insurance industry is doing to make their ripoff |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
45. There is so much wrong with this that I don't know where to begin. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
48. my first unrec |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
49. Yes, us dirty proles are responsible for the health care mess |
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